Desertrose

Thanks ysrn, for fixing my quote. I can't figure out how to do quotes. DUH I do not post much, just lurk. I appreciate the help. Yer welcome. If the magic coder thingy doesn't work, just post [ quote ] in front of your quote and [ /quote ] behind it (without the spaces). ~ ysrn

Hi IU Gal, You got it right the first time it is Desertrose. I saw that Clay could not see your beautiful daughter since some rude people were reaching over her and sticking their cameras and playbills right in Clay's face. I could tell that they were keeping him from looking down, so I just decided to ask him to look down so that he would not miss her. I am sure that he appreciated my heads up since he was very attentive to your beautiful daughter. You are very welcome.

Well, this was the first picture that came to my mind Talking about crotch pictures, I recall seeing one on this board of Clay sitting on a stool, I believe in brown or gray slacks, which left very little to one's imagination. hubba hubba. Does anyone remember this one and can someone post it again if they know which one I am talking about? Do you have this one Muskie? I'm not muski, but I hope this will do.....you can never have too many Clay crotch shots I always say. heh Thanks, Treenuts. Yep, that is the one I was talking about. Is my board screwed up?? Cause I can't see this picture or link or anything!! Cha Cha, The picture is up thread. Go back a few pages. You can't miss it.

Well, this was the first picture that came to my mind Talking about crotch pictures, I recall seeing one on this board of Clay sitting on a stool, I believe in brown or gray slacks, which left very little to one's imagination. hubba hubba. Does anyone remember this one and can someone post it again if they know which one I am talking about? Do you have this one Muskie? I'm not muski, but I hope this will do.....you can never have too many Clay crotch shots I always say. heh Thanks, Treenuts. Yep, that is the one I was talking about.

Well, this was the first picture that came to my mind Talking about crotch pictures, I recall seeing one on this board of Clay sitting on a stool, I believe in brown or gray slacks, which left very little to one's imagination. hubba hubba. Does anyone remember this one and can someone post it again if they know which one I am talking about? Do you have this one Muskie?

annabear....you called? Reminds me of the most recent board acquaintance whom I met in person. She hugged me and said, "YOU'RE muskifest? Oh, I love your posts...you're the horny one, right?" :lmaosmiley-1: Hee! That CMSU! Just got to my hotel room here in Portland after a plane trip, site visit and dinner. Niiiiiiiice. Will be driving tomorrow a couple of hours to visit the U. of Oregon campus in Eugene...then driving back to get a plane home. whew. Great recap by dksfriend! LOVE details! I just get an idiotic grin on my face whenever I think of Clay now---just knowing he's having so much fun and spreading those talented wings of his.... Gonna kick back now and enjoy the alone-ness in an anonymous hotel room. Ahhh...little pleasures. :F_05BL17blowkiss: Muski, What can I say? I do love to read your posts. They put that idiotic grin on my face whenever you smut. Makes me wonder if Clay ever reads this board and what kind of smile he gets on his face. I have a feeling that he would enjoy it too.

OOlsee and Keepingfaith, Both analogies work for me.

Hi Keepingfaith, I am coming out of lurkdom to let you know how relieved and happy I am that your daughter was alright. I had to read pages and pages to finally find that out. My eyes are red from all that reading. As to politics, my daughter and I are on the same page, but I do not know where I went wrong with my sons. All I know is that they are wrong, wrong, wrong. Does not help to argue politics with them. It is very frustrating! I wonder where they got their hard hardheadedness from? Not me! Yes, the weather here is beautiful, only thing is for how long? I had a great time with the ehp dinner and enjoyed meeting all of you. I hope to see you all sometime soon. WARNING to all, the ehp is so scary that they are a lot of FUN! Who knew? :F_05BL17blowkiss:

I definitely agree that like singing, dancing ability is "something you are and not something you become." When one goes dancing a lot, it is easy to identify the "natural" dancers from the dancers who have taken a lot of dance lessons. The "learned" dancers, even though quite good, do not have the flow and smoothness of the ones that just have natural dancing ability. I have heard it called "dancing from the heart." Having said that, I am really looking forward to seeing Clay dance. I do not expect him to dance like MJ, but I am happy that Scarlett says his dancing has really improved. I wish that I had seen him when he was still counting so that I could really see how far he has come. It is good that he can keep up with the rest of the cast since they are used to all that dancing, and Clay is not.

Couchie, I agree with what someone said up thread about you being "wise." You are also quite witty. I loved your comment on the discussion about Clay spending a lot of money on having Jerome with him through his Spamalot gig, where you said that the way that Clay recycles his clothes, he needs to spend his money on something.

Play, I like the way you disagree with other posters because you stand by your points and you do not personally attack them. I can understand you mocking "general attitudes," because they are "pervasive" in this fandom. I have no idea if other fan groups for other artists have the same general attitudes because I have never been a devoted fan until Clay happened to us. But I also have problems with the "insiders" and those who claim to know way more than the rest of us. I got the chance to chat with you in Vegas. I was seated to your right at the breakfast. I enjoyed our chat. As for the eyeliner, I can't understand why it has become an issue, either for or against. The man rushes out to sign playbills and interact with fan that are waiting for him in cold NY. Could it possibly be that he is being considerate of his fans and not making them wait until he removes the stage makeup? Obviously, he is comfortable with who he is, and probably gives his fans credit for realizing that the makeup is for his role in Spamalot, and not his regular "look." Even if he decided to wear eyeliner from now on, so what? It does not take away from what the man is and what he stands for. Ok, long post forl me. I usually lurk.

Hi Keepinfaith, I am all set. See you at Houston dinner tonight. Hey K Andre, I am looking forward to meeting you tonight.

Thanks Playbiller, and all of you for sharing this wonderful night with us.

Glad to see that I am not the only one that is too excited to sleep. Does anyone have any idea when the reviews will start coming in?

The Insider had a blurb about the Newsweek article. The lead- in made it sound like he was dissing KR, but what they actually talked about did not support this. What else is new? Anyway, I was happy to see Clay get publicity on the Insider. The shots they used of him were really good. Hawt, Hawt, Hawt!

I have the same reaction and I also agree with Playbiller. I wonder about fans on these boards who spend so much time talking about RCA, Clive Davis, and their conspiracy theories. Don't they have a real life? They suck the fun out of being a Clay fan. Many times, I have wondered if I belong on these boards with so many OTT people. I like that here in FCA, there is not much of that drama going on. Most of the time, posts are informative and a lot of fun. (although sometimes on the lecherous side) I can handle that. :F_05BL17blowkiss: When is the Houston dinner? Are you talking about February or January. I usually just lurk, so I do not know how to enclose quote in quote mode. Can someone tell me how?

Couchie, Glad to hear your mom is doing better. Usually I just lurk, but decided to add an avatar while I have my 12 year old grandson, who is better on the computer than I am. I hope that all of you are having a great holiday season! Wow he can do lots of stuff I don't know how to do! Too bad he doesn't live in Houston. I'm visiting his family in Dallas.

KAndre, Where can I buy a bloody spork so I can join in battle with you? Finally someone spoke up as to exactly how I feel. I have a lot of Christmas Albums and MCWL is my number one favorite. I love that Clay sings the songs traditionally. I dislike when artists distort the traditional carols. Even my friends who do not particularly care for our BF think that MCWL is beautiful and beautifully sung. I got my Christmas album also, but I will buy the new one too. It will be tough for the new one to top MCWL though!

Add me to the list. Daughter and I will be arriving on Sunday Nov. 4. We will be staying at the Orleans, and will be going to Elton John on Monday. We will be in section 116 row FF seats 7 & 8. I also have no pin, (whatever that means,) but I hope I get to meet as many of you as possible. We are not planning to attend the preparty this time, so I hope that I still get chance to meet you all. I will have my cell in case we decide to exchange cell phone numbers by PM.

Any chance of getting a group from Houston to team up to see Clay in tights? How about it Houston posse? Spring in New York sounds good to me.

JMH and Wandacleo, I fully understand what you are going through. My mother is 87 years old and has Alzheimer's in the final stage. She does not even know who I am. When I went to see her, she was afraid of me and would run me off. She would get violent. I learned that this is common because they are confused, scared and are trying to defend themselves. My father, who is 91 years old and I could not get her to take a bath. This is a woman who was very vain and took a bath twice a day. She was a very controlling person, always in charge, and even in the advanced stages of dementia she was in control. We could not force her to bathe because she has osteoporosis, and she would hang on to the walls, doorways or whatever she could grab, and we were afraid to break one of her bones. She would not let us brush her teeth. We got home health. It was a big German lady, who could not force my mother to bathe either because she said that they do not force patients to do anything they do not want to do. We hired a neighbor who used to be a nurses aide and my mother trusted. The only thing she could do was sponge bathe her. I found out later that some Alzheimer's patients for an unknown reason fear water. My mother did not have a bath for three years, only sponge baths. Those were forced on her when she woke up in the morning, and was still in bed where she could not hurt herself. She also would become belligerent and run my father out of their house because she did not know who he was and would accuse him of being her "good for nothing cousin" who was trying to sponge off of her. Sometimes in the middle of the night she would wake up and kick him out of bed and out of the house before her husband came home and caught him in her bed. His next door neighbor would tell me that my dad would ring their doorbell crying in frustration. He could not sleep in another bedroom because he had to keep an eye on her. She too did better with male nurses. She was very pretty in her youth, and I think she was still flirty. Once she told me that the doctor who was taking care of her asked her for a date. This went on for five years. We were lucky to find a foster home run by a very loving woman, who my mother adores. She is always kissing her hand. This woman can handle my mother. My mother now has a bath every day. It was very hard for my father to take this step, but he would have not survived if my mother was still at home. He was a hard worker, and has a pension that goes to pay for this foster home, which leaves him very little money. It is a private home. They do not qualify for any help because both of them worked all their lives and managed to save a little money, plus they own their home. Fortunately I can help, and my adult children help pay my mothers expenses every month. She has been there five years. My father would not have been able to handle putting her in a nursing home. He goes to visit her every other day and actually enjoys the foster home. She is thriving there, and is now the patient who has been there the longest. She cannot even feed herself because she doesn't know how to use spoon, but miraculously, she is the only patient there who is not in a wheelchair. She can still walk with help. The lady who takes care of my mother told me that in the stage my mother was in when she came to live there, they only lasted about 2 years. My mother weighs less than 60 pounds. She has had hospice for the last year, and they measure her to figure out how much she weighs. I call her Wonder Woman. Who knew how strong this woman was? I took care of my late husband, who was completely paralyzed with Lou Gehrig's disease, at home until he died. He was never hospitalized, and he died at home. I can honestly say that he was easier to take care of than my mother, because even though he had to be taken care of like a baby, his mind worked perfectly and he understood that I was trying my best to care for him. That was also the hardest part because the only thing he could move was his eyes, and he could not speak, but he was aware of everything that was happening to him because his mind was still very sharp. I don't know how aware my mother is. Just once she asked me, a few years ago, if she was insane, and then she said that she did not think that there were any crazy people in her family. So I guess at some level she realized that her behavior was not normal. I can totally empathize with your situation. Your mother is very fortunate to have you.

Hey! I see you are from the south too?

Hola, I met some of you at the Houston Pre-party. I was with the CB Houston pre-party. I met Scarlett and some other members in Tulsa That is how I found out about this board. I have been lurking for awhile and finally decided to register because I really liked what I was reading. I chuckled when I read the "discussion" on the Clay - Kim situation because a couple of people I met told me that they did not post anymore because they always got into trouble. The way that the mod handled the situation encouraged me to apply because she did a good job. I was happy to find a board that was fun, and yet could uphold the rules without a lot of editing such as at the OFC. I am Hispanic and live in Houston. Was born in a part of Texas that is desert, hence the desertrose screen name. I am a grandma, but I feel that chronological age is just a number, thus I still think young and am enjoying your "smutty" threads. Music has always been a very important part of my life. I may not remember a lot of important stuff, but most of the time, I only have to hear the first few notes to recognize a song. You would think that I could sing, but I could not carry a tune if my life depended on it. When we had to evacuate for Rita, my extensive CD collection, my DVD of all seasons of "Sex and the City", all of the DVDs that I had up to then of Seinfeld plus the last season on tape of "Six Feet Under." went into my important documents case. Alas, I could not take my computer tower, so with tears running down my cheeks, I had to leave my beloved Clack, which I vowed to start downloading again as soon as I could replace my waterlogged computer. Well, Rita never materialized in my area, and I learned my lesson. I now have an external hard drive for all my clack. I like to go to the movies, theater and concerts, especially Clay concerts. I also love to dance, and go dancing twice a month. This has probably told you a lot about me, and reading this I have learned a lot about myself. I am not really as shallow as this sounds, I am a good grandma, babysit and everything. Really. I even help with school work. I first saw Clay on Idol 2, and he had me from the moment I saw him. I cannot tell you why he stole my heart. Was it his beautiful innocent face singing his song with that incredible voice? Or was it the sexy knee bends? It could have been the way his hands caressed the mike. I don't know. I just know he cast a spell on me that none of my friends and family can understand. I had to go visit my daughter in Belgium and missed his last performance and the finale. To this day, it bothers me that I was not here to vote, and that friends and family who were supposed to vote for me did not do so. Daughter was annoyed that I kept trying to contact friends in US to vote for Clay when I was supposed to be visiting her. I really thought that he was going to win, and I guess I hold a grudge because I still remember the friends and family that let me down. Another thing that I learned about myself. I hate it when I mention Clay to someone, and the first thing that comes to their lips is that "He is gay." I see nothing effeminate or gay about Clay. I just see a gorgeous, sexy, sensitive, intelligent and caring guy. I know that he is not perfect, but to me that makes him more "perfect" in my book? Perfect sounds scary to me. The one thing that fascinates me is how a skinny young man could inspire so much emotion either in the form of love and devotion or undeserved hatred. I guess by now, if you are still reading this, you have learned that I am wordy. Sorry! Good thing is that I am mostly a lurker so I won't be boring you too often. I will be enjoying your discussions and learning though. This internet thing is sort of new to me. I did not even know it was there until a year or so ago. Had a computer during Idol 2, but did not really know how to use it and most of the time wanted to take a hammer to it when it tied up my phone line, (had AOL) froze, and then I did not have a phone. Now, I know that unplugging it usually fixes everything, and I am not afraid of the darn thing anymore, plus I now have cable. I have since made up for lost time. I belong to the CB, CV, and the OFC, but usually just lurk there also. Glad to meet all of you.