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  1. My thoughts exactly! I guess it is always a good idea to put a couple dollars on the long shot if you can! sigh....
  2. I assumed (I know, not good) that since these are ReMastered recordings, that it would be songs that have been released before. I don't usually by The Best Of anyone, unless I don't have any of the songs. Since I have everything that Clay has recorded (actually a few copies) I have to decide if I will buy it anyway, just to show that people still care about Clay. I wish I knew if he will even be getting anything from this. It could be that he owes RCA money since OMWH didn't make it to the 500K mark and I had heard that is about when the artist has the label paid back. Of course, if that is the case, I suppose I should still help. What to do, what to do
  3. There is no thought on my mind that he would have seriously compromised his career due to that level of stubbornness, but I understand stubbornness, yet I couldn't have done what he did even as a teenager, the worst time of my stubbornness. Maybe you're right and he exaggerated his stubbornness, but I can't speculate on that, I can only go by what he said happened. And yes, every single person in this fandom is subjective to varying degrees, because that is what people do if they are "attached" to Clay the way we are. For my part, this is all just hot air blowing around and we can analyze all we want because if that is what gets us through another day in this fandom, then so be it, it isn't going to kill anyone and those who are annoyed by it, don't read it, no one is forced to read another person's post. Besides, none of this analyzing is going to affect or influence Clay, he has a mind of his own and he has a network of people who will guide and advise him. His experience in teaching special needs children has been, I believe, invaluable to him. It would have given him the tools to deal with unexpected situations. I think it also gave him the capacity to deal with the kind of people who are much more difficult to handle than any special needs child. He's not perfect but he can take care of himself. At the end of the day, he's still singing to me, and not worrying me at all, because I am not conceited enough as to think that he needs me to worry about him. Personally, since I am more of a reader then a poster, I like to read a lot of different thoughts. We are here for Clay and to talk about Clay and it is much more interesting to read different ideas then to just read the same thing. I don't have an idea in the world how Clay feels about any of this, so anything I might say would only be what I think. I thought about writing down my thoughts but you will be happy to know that I talked myself out of it.
  4. I was sort of wondering that too. I haven't used a photo booth in a long time but i assume it still works the same. You pose and you get your pictures. I would hate to think that the booth has negatives that more pictures could be made from. That would just be wrong. Anyway, if there is only one copy you would have to assume that one of them gave it to someone. The only thing is, I would think that if Clay wanted to get pictures out there of him having fun, there are other ways where he has more control of where they are posted. Who knows though. what I understand is it was a booth rented or had for the after party, meant to be put online and looked at with a password for everyone involved...so they werent hard copy pictures, they were meant to be put up and password protected...obviously I dont know, thats just my guess..Its not like when you go the the mall, take your pictures and get the pictures through the slot. Oh, I see, that makes more sense.
  5. I am not sure about this. I received the pictures in an e-mail from my DIL. She got them from Perez Hilton (I didn't know she went there) Anyway, the caption read Clay and his super cute boyfriend, Broadway actor Reed Kelly, at the closing night party for Spamalot earlier this month. We're hearing rumblings they may have broken up, though. That'd be sad! I don't look to Perez Hilton for truth but I guess we will have to wait and see. What I don't understand is how friends pose for pictures in a photo booth and have them end up on the internet.
  6. Thank you for that informtion, I really had no idea about the acid/alkaline thing. I am going to check out that website.
  7. liney23 That's wonderful! Have you been on a special diet or just cutting back? I need to lose weight but I can't seem to get myself to start. I READ diet books and WATCH exercising video's but that doesn't seem to be working!!
  8. Maybe they are Clay's hands but from a different picture and the size isn't quite right. To me, they do look like his hands.
  9. Whether the whole thing is Clay or not, the face is his and he was beautiful!!
  10. This will be the last post... I promise <g> I never intended for it to go on for so long but there were people that didn't understand and I was trying to explain. I said that is it hard to find WORDS that will explain FEELINGS and to find examples for the changes I FELT in Clay. I said that each thing I would mention was very small taken alone. I knew I was taking a chance when I originally posted and had been very pleased that everyone was so understanding. Unfortunately, as some wanted better explanations and I attempted to give one, the tide turned somewhat, from understanding, to my being judgemental and thinking that my standards are above other peoples. I undoubtedly didn't choose the best words. I believe that I said repeatedly that I made the mistake of seeing only what I guess I wanted to see. I didn't think of it that way at the time, but looking back now that seems to be the case. I won't try to put FEELINGS into WORDS again because I don't think it is possible and there just ends up being misunderstands
  11. Seems to indicate? What am I missing here? Is there some picture of him boozing it up with Hannah that I missed? Or are you reading something into a photograph that you really have no way of knowing? How did you ever deal with the Boobgate picture back in the day? *g* I guess I was going by pictures of myself that were taken when I had a few too many beers. Of course I thought the Boobgate picture was a photoshop, what else <g>
  12. Thanks tribeca I appreciate that. It is hard to post when you know that very few if any will feel the same. It is also hard to put "feelings" into words so that someone else will understand. Some people seem to understand what I am trying to say and others don't but that's ok. I do feel somewhat better just for having the chance to say it. I don't really have anyone in my real life that I talk to about Clay, at least not this sort of thing. I am so glad that Clay showed up to see Ruben
  13. Can't answer that. I guess up until 2007 I just saw what I wanted to see. All things that others saw to indicate he wasn't a sweet innocent boy were wasted on me, I guess I chose not to see them. I started picking up on something in '07 but not anything particular. Why now? I have no idea.
  14. I guess what I don't understand, and I'm trying to, is what he has done or said to make you think he doesn't want to be a role model or have high standards for himself? Or do we just define those things differently? Being asked to actually put down things that make me feel this way is hard. I mentioned his appreciation of the French Taunters. I understand now the difference between that and Billboard but honestly I didn't think he would like that sort of humor. I remember when we first found out he was going to be playing Sir Robin everyone wondered if he would say shit. During the Talk Back (is that what it was called) for BC, he said hell. I don't recall why, but he then said something to indicate that we would be shocked at how much he swears. Then there is the picture of him and Hannah which seems to say that he no longer is a non drinker. None of it is a big deal, nothing that most of us haven't done. I guess what I am saying is that he was talking about being a role model but in private he was just acting like any other guy. I just thought he was the same person in public and in private. As I have said before, I managed to ignore things that didn't point in that direction so I know I am largely to blame for my problem.
  15. I feel that’s unnecessarily harsh, but relatively accurate. I think Jaycee has a right to her opinion, but there is no correlation between the two things. For one thing, The Billboard Awards are televised, in primetime when children are watching, and half the people there were drunk off their asses. Two very key points that can’t be said about Spamalot. Someone else mentioned the mean-ness of the events – also can’t be applied to Spamalot. The Spamalot audience goes into the theater *knowing* that there are aspects of it that are not for children. I’d be willing to bet that Clay’s concern about his mother was more about HIM than it was about her – as a young guy he might not have an issue with seeing it, but seeing it with is mother sitting NEXT to him? A whole different story. He was likely embarrassed. Is he still embarrassed for her to see some thing like Spam six years later? I kinda doubt it, but we’ll never know. He probably prepared her (and himself). But I still think that much of Clay’s reaction to things is more related to the impact it has on *children* than it is to his own personal feelings. In regard to what cindilu2 said, I don't really have any expectations for Clay to live up to now. The explaination of the differences in the 2 events does make sense. It seems I have always been naive where Clay is concerned (not anymore) I just took everything he said as being how he felt, not just how he felt in a certain situation, unless he actually said that. When he talked of being a role model, I really thought that extended into his private life as well as his public. I thought he had high standards for himself. Of course I managed to overlook a lot of things. The picture of Clay and his 2 friends that is posted above, someone said back when it originally showed up, that the writing was put on after the picture was taken and wasn't there when they posed for it. I accepted that as fact (naive) but looking at the picture now I don't think that could be true. That is very neat, I am so happy for your niece.
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