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#33: Let's all chant "I think it can! I think it can! I think it can!"


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    • So, how about that Clay Aiken?
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    • The guy is just endlessly fascinating, isn't he?
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    • Artificial insemination, well at least we know he had a hand in it.
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    • If you claim he's got titanium balls, why not let him use them?
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    • I'm happy to let Clay do whatever he wants.
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    • Clay--still the one.
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I, also, can't seem to get the picture of a hunched over guy, hidden beneath a hoodie, making his way down a hallway to a bathroom carrying a cup....followed by a seven foot bodyguard.

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Now I will have that visual in my head for a good long while. :P

I ditto the Clay love. This whole incident reminds me of Boobgate, in as much, as some fans are so very upset about this news that I am having a hard time posting. I really do not wish to make them feel worse. However I feel for all my board friends who are struggling with this, I realized this morning that, other than a mild case of, 'wow, did see that coming!,' I'm alright with it, and by alright, I mean if it makes them happy, these are their lives and the life of that new little one. They are the only ones who need to be ok.

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I just lost my cool at another board, good thing I have to leave now. I tired very hard not to be rude, but who knows how some stuff comes across. I will be calm when I talk to the dentist who seems to think I am a money tree. I will be calm when I talk to the dentist, I will not strike him.

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Huh. So I guess things are no clearer this morning, then? I was hoping they would be. :blink:

I have to admit that I'm firmly in the "It's soooooo none of my business but I'd still like to know anyway because I'm nosy like that" car.

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Clay has now broken into the 20's on mediabase and All Access. He is at #29 with 19 stations now playing him, and 12 new spins. That's up two positions.

"I think it can! I think it can! I think it can!"

Now THAT'S some GOOD NEWS!!!

I can't believe I have to go to work today!

Don't these people understand I have a ClayLife??!!!

:cryingwlaughter:

Again- if all Clay breaks loose . . .

SOMEBODY CALL ME!!!

hee

Have a great day everyone!

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Huh. So I guess things are no clearer this morning, then? I was hoping they would be. :blink:

I have to admit that I'm firmly in the "It's soooooo none of my business but I'd still like to know anyway because I'm nosy like that" car.

That's because you're a normal human being. It is perfectly normal to want to know the truth, even if the truth isn't our business.

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Love to hear he's broken into the 20s! YAY! :dancingpickle:

I think I will stay off all other boards again until/if we hear anything from either Clay or Jaymes. Yep, I'm curious too, but no, I don't need to know, since it's none of my business.

I can't believe not one person in my RL (as opposed to my Clay life, heh) has called me to ask me if I've heard the news. LOL. Not even my mother! And I know she's definitely seen it on some show or other, she lives in front of the TV. :P

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So........ First, I am angry and I am angry at Clay, TC, Jaymes whoever. NOT because of what happened between Clay and Jaymes but how they have handled it. While I can understand keeping the news under wraps for awhile, this is not something that could be ignored. News was eventually going to come out. Why did this have to break with TMZ? Why was there no announcement before now? Ok, maybe they had planned an announcement but TMZ beat them to the punch. So where is the announcement from Clay now? I know some will tell me I am wrong, but I think at this point Clay OWES us an announcement. The cat is out of the bag. Confirm or deny! Its that simple. I thought for sure by the time I got home tonight there would be some sort of announcement. But nooooooooooo.

BUT.....true or not - this is really NONE of our business. Sure, have opinions on it, just like opinions on Brangelina or whatever, but no one owes anyone else any explanation of what they do in their own private life.

Doesn't matter if that life is dragged all over the stage for the delectation and entertainment of strangers. Why should Clay confirm or deny? Why should he "handle" what is surely a most personal event for the gratification of strangers? This is a most private intimate matter, true or not - is anyone here related to them? Even then, not really any of your business. We don't own him, he is not our child.

That is all very nice in theory, but the fact is he is a public figure and that means parts of even his private life are public. He is also a public figure who has established a more personal relationship with his fans. Plus, this is not something that will just go away. And sometimes it is better just to confirm or deny in order to bring order back into the crazy universe.

He didn't necessarily owe us anything before this story broke, but IMO he does now if for no other reason than to just set the record straight. If its not true, it could be as simple as a blog that says "Don't believe everything you read". If its true a simple statement saying he and Jaymes are having a baby together and are very happy. No further details are needed.

Once you enter the public arena you lose some of your privacy. It may not be right but it is the way it is.

With a new day I am beginning to lean toward the its not true department. Partly, I am sure, because I do not want it to be true. I am not ready for that! Partly because its all so bizarre and it just TO ME - with absolutely NO knowledge of the real Clay and his relationship with Jaymes - it just doesn't seem like something he wouldn't do - nor does it seem like something Jaymes would ask of him. I also keep thinking of Clay's policy of not commenting on crap that isn't true and I really think if this was true, and since it has reached "legitimate" news outlets, if it were true he would say something, issue some statement.

On the other hand, the fact it has reached "legitimate" news sources who usually check their sources better than TMZ makes me think perhaps it is true. It just seems sooooooooooooooo bizarre.

From what I have heard, this BJ Cook, Jaymes' former sister-in-law, is still close to Jaymes (and apparently David, for that matter), and the fact the statement from the Foster camp was retracted makes me feel as if they never thought the fact Jaymes is pregnant would ever become public knowledge but once it did they wanted to take the sensationalism out of it by letting it known that Clay is not the father and I bet one reason is they know they only reason anyone cares about Jaymes being pregnant is the whole Clay is the father by artificial insemination angle and that maybe with that one aspect gone they will leave her alone. No further comment necessary.

But who knows. If it is true I do think he needs to say something and I do think he owes "us" that. No details needed. Just yes or no and then he shuts up.

Actually, I personally love muski's scenario that Clay and Jaymes planted the story just to punk the media, but I doubt that's true since Jaymes is really pregnant and it could cause her unnecessary stress.

But it would be funny! :cryingwlaughter:

So I am keeping my fingers crossed Clay is NOT the father of Jaymes' baby. Its the only scenario that makes sense to me.

Ansa, I still haven't told her it was Clay on the CD, but I will. She gave me back the survery just after I had read all this baby crap so I was a little distracted!

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Once you enter the public arena you lose some of your privacy. It may not be right but it is the way it is.

Not if you don't let it. I disagree heartily with this. It actually sickens me. Many public figures are fighting back on this. And just when did degree of prying into personal life for entertainment purposes get determined? Ugh.

And funny thing - what if it is true and Clay is so disgusted by the reaction that he quits the business? It is not like Jaymes is merely an Aiken Accessory, she is a real person with a real life. Should there have been a poll at the OFC to see how this was going to play out with the fans?

What's next - demanding that fans see the bedsheets the morning after his honeymoon, to see if the bride was a virgin?

I understand Ashton Kutcher is starting a reality show where the trashy and snoopy invasive media are punked.

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Personally, I would tend to doubt this is planted story to deliberately punk the entertainment press, because those are the exact same venues where Clay has to go to promote his music and his other interests. Would Clay risk compromising his credibility like that? "Yeah, I can't believe you idiots bought that whole baby daddy story. And, oh by the way, how would you like to run some UNICEF footage from my latest field visit?"

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I have to admit that I'm firmly in the "It's soooooo none of my business but I'd still like to know anyway because I'm nosy like that" car.

I think I'm the conductor of this car, because that's the way I feel too.

Does Clay "owe" me the news on this? Heck no. Do I "need" to know about this? Again, no. Do I "want" to know? In this case, yes. I know -- it goes against the way I felt about the whole mess of two years ago in theory. I'm also certainly happy for Clay and Jaymes no matter the final word on this. But just getting confirmation on something this exciting would add something "more" to this whole thing, and I can't help it if I want that.

Clay has now broken into the 20's on mediabase and All Access. He is at #29 with 19 stations now playing him, and 12 new spins. That's up two positions.

"I think it can! I think it can! I think it can!"

YAY! Very cool.

I'm changing the phrase though...

I know it can, I know it can, I know it can...

And just when did degree of prying into personal life for entertainment purposes get determined? Ugh.

Distasteful, sure...but this kind of thing has been around for a LONG time. People have ALWAYS been fascinated with the private lives of celebrities, IMO. And yes, it's been done solely for entertainment purposes. There's an inherent curiosity in humans to want to know these kinds of things, IMO. There's been rag mags for years about movie stars and music artists, and the advent of the internet just added one more layer to the mix. It IS sad, but IMO it's been around for a long time.

*this post brought to you by the letters I-M-O*

bottlecap, I agree. As much as it WOULD be funny, it would also be "burning bridges that took a while to build."

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Personally, I would tend to doubt this is planted story to deliberately punk the entertainment press, because those are the exact same venues where Clay has to go to promote his music and his other interests. Would Clay risk compromising his credibility like that? "Yeah, I can't believe you idiots bought that whole baby daddy story. And, oh by the way, how would you like to run some UNICEF footage from my latest field visit?"

Yeah and I don;t think he would ever put a friend in this position. Clay is all about integrity of the media and so I think he would teach by example not by punking the media.

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For the life of me I don't understand why we need to know. We want to know, sure, but we don't need to know. All we do know came from gossip sites, with varying degrees of credibility, and if you want to and are inclined to believe the stories, and it makes you happy, that's good. If not, ... just don't believe it. But Clay doesn't owe us one damn word regarding Jaymes Foster's pregnancy.

As fans we expect to hear about the music, tours, personal appearances, TV shows, and his UNICEF work, and of course what his hair looks like today, but I consider the story at hand to be of a intimate nature and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear absolutely nothing. Jaymes may be very reticent to discuss this pregnancy before the baby is born.

Anything could happen. We could get anything from no news at all to a full blown wedding. No one knows the dynamics that go on between two people, and especially a couple with a wide age difference. Who knows, maybe Clay has wanted to marry Jaymes for a couple of years and she held back because she wanted him to have a family and felt she couldn't give him children. I can think of a dozen different scenarios right off hand. So maybe there will be a baby and a wedding. Maybe not. I just know that a person can't always make his or her heart do or feel the socially acceptable thing, and that's as it should be. Life is not about conforming to preset rules and regulations -- it's about living every new day.

Jumping to conclusions is fun for some and agony for others. But I never expect TO KNOW. It's just none of your or my business whatsoever. period. And right now, I'm VERY happy for Jaymes Foster.

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Ok. We've got a new take on the "auntie" thing. When I got to work this morning, the first email notice that popped up as I logged on said, "You're going to be a Godmother!!!!"

I'll eventually join you in the "It's soooooo none of my business but I'd still like to know anyway because I'm nosy like that" car, bottlecap, but I'm kinda skeered to crawl my way over from the "WTF" car.

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Well, shoot. I was hoping for some definitive answer about the story this morning. And I'll be at work all day, so it will be difficult to check in to see if anything new develops.

But, I'm in the same camp as several others - I'd love to know the real story, but I don't think Clay owes it to me. It's a personal and private matter, and it's up to Clay and Jaymes to decide if, when and how to make it public. With all of the attention in the media so far, though, it seems that they will probably have to address it at some point, whether sooner or later, even if only a confirmation or denial as to whether Clay is the father.

Being a part of this fandom is never boring, is it?

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for the mediabase numbers!

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It is when "want" turns to "need" and/or "demand" and "anger" that it creeps me out.

I am soooo not up with the reasoning that the prying for entertainment and shilling purposes is OK because it has been done for a long long time. I read a column today that called the new internet and reality TV invasiveness the new pornography - that is what this feels like to me, for some reason. Bread and circuses.

And this stuff does change - used to be that Hollywood stars were pretty much told what to do with their personal lives - up to and including who to date and who to MARRY - by studios and PR people. I know some dinosaurs still think that is the way it should be, but I believe the entertainers successfully rebelled.

In any event, I don't think it is up to Clay to announce anything about Jaymes just to appease curiosity.

For the record, I think this whole thing is surprising, but sweet and kinda logical, if true.

Maybe I am just not good fan material anymore - not to be confused with "good fan/bad fan".

Oh, and I want to echo EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for the mediabase numbers!

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Well, that was quite the night last night! I came home from work with a hot calzone, plopped myself down in front of the TV for a few minutes to eat it hot.....and Inside Edition was on....I nearly died!! Just about broke my neck getting upstairs to the computer.

I think the calzone might be still down there...

Huh. So I guess things are no clearer this morning, then? I was hoping they would be. :blink:

I have to admit that I'm firmly in the "It's soooooo none of my business but I'd still like to know anyway because I'm nosy like that" car.

Me too!!

I'm waffling between:

a) It's true that Jaymes is pregnant, but the AI part is NOT true :lol:...ie, they're a couple

B ) We're being punk'd

I don't know which I prefer! a) would be AWEsome!!! Clay having a child in any way, shape or form would be awesome, don't get me wrong!

B ) would be hilarious!!

:shrug:

Love to hear he's broken into the 20s! YAY! :dancingpickle:

I think I will stay off all other boards again until/if we hear anything from either Clay or Jaymes. Yep, I'm curious too, but no, I don't need to know, since it's none of my business.

I can't believe not one person in my RL (as opposed to my Clay life, heh) has called me to ask me if I've heard the news. LOL. Not even my mother! And I know she's definitely seen it on some show or other, she lives in front of the TV. :P

Yaaaa!!!! for #29!!!!...and luckiest, I'm the same way! My boss called at 9:40 PM last night, and again I just about broke my neck getting to the phone thinking it was a friend calling me back....and then had to endure half an hour of her multiple reasons why she just COULDn't work today! Like I cared!! Gawd.....:lol:

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I have to admit that I'm firmly in the "It's soooooo none of my business but I'd still like to know anyway because I'm nosy like that" car.

I think I'm the conductor of this car, because that's the way I feel too.

Does Clay "owe" me the news on this? Heck no. Do I "need" to know about this? Again, no. Do I "want" to know? In this case, yes. I know -- it goes against the way I felt about the whole mess of two years ago in theory. I'm also certainly happy for Clay and Jaymes no matter the final word on this. But just getting confirmation on something this exciting would add something "more" to this whole thing, and I can't help it if I want that.

Apparently I'm co-conductor! Parts of any celebrity's life are public by definition, but frankly I don't think anything to do with their reproduction is on that list. I don't see how a official comment one way or the other will bring "order" back - frankly, whatever chaos this seems to have caused doesn't really have anything to do with him. Clay isn't entitled to know how my sex life impacts my following him around - he gets the same courtesy. As for the relationship changing, that sort of boggles my mind - despite all the money we spend, it still is fairly one-sided. And even if it wasn't, I can't imagine putting parts of my life on hold like marriage, relationships, children because it may change a dynamic with a friend - I can't imagine a friend even thinking that way. My hard-core friends - hell, we aren't the same people we were in high school - and don't want to be. Some have dropped out, new ones have arrived - I think that's called "living".

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I really need to just follow djs around and say WORD I think.

Well, that was quite the night last night! I came home from work with a hot calzone, plopped myself down in front of the TV for a few minutes to eat it hot.....and Inside Edition was on....I nearly died!! Just about broke my neck getting upstairs to the computer.

I think the calzone might be still down there...

:cryingwlaughter:

Parts of any celebrity's life are public by definition, but frankly I don't think anything to do with their reproduction is on that list. I don't see how a official comment one way or the other will bring "order" back - frankly, whatever chaos this seems to have caused doesn't really have anything to do with him. Clay isn't entitled to know how my sex life impacts my following him around - he gets the same courtesy. As for the relationship changing, that sort of boggles my mind - despite all the money we spend, it still is fairly one-sided. And even if it wasn't, I can't imagine putting parts of my life on hold like marriage, relationships, children because it may change a dynamic with a friend - I can't imagine a friend even thinking that way. My hard-core friends - hell, we aren't the same people we were in high school - and don't want to be. Some have dropped out, new ones have arrived - I think that's called "living".

WORD again. So nice to come to a board where I don't have to write my own posts. ;)

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I am soooo not up with the reasoning that the prying for entertainment and shilling purposes is OK because it has been done for a long long time. I read a column today that called the new internet and reality TV invasiveness the new pornography - that is what this feels like to me, for some reason. Bread and circuses.

djs, I actually totally agree with this. But what exactly will change this? I have no idea. Sure, celebrities can try to stop it -- but then you've got someone like Paris Hilton, who seems to THRIVE on it, which feeds it even more. And the other side of the coin is that for every person who calls this kind of stuff "bread and circuses," there are is another person who calls it "fascinating entertaining reading." Again, I have no idea how to stop this crazy train.

I don't think I ever said my congratulations to Jaymes...if you are reading (haha) I hope you have a happy and healthy baby.

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YUP right now my main worry is for Jaymes. Whoever the father is this is both stressful and exciting times for her so sending her good thoughts and prayers for a healthy baby and an easy pregnancy. Having your last trimester in the summer time is tough...

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I don't think fans are evil for wanting to know, or for even getting upset about it, but at some point, I would like to see some stop and think before posting. Some downright nasty things have been posted about Jaymes using Clay, how disgusting it is how old she is and how irresponsible she is for having a baby at her age. My mom was not that young when there were accidents and my brothers were born when my mother was 40 and 44 and my father was 46 and 50. They accepted the responsibilities and they had built in babysitters with my sister and myself, they were not denied attention and love as children. It is not like the woman who was 65, single and had Art I and hormone treatments so she could have a baby.

The point that annoys me is declarations of fact when we realy don't know anyone. Someone declaring that TMZ is always right (yeah, in her dreams). The amazing lackof patience - Clay MUST respond this very second!! It is not fair to the fans. I still think he is either trying to figure out an answer that won't hurt jaymes and wont make him another joke or he is off on a mission and unavailable.

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Oh.....WOW! I knew something BIG was up the moment I came to the boards last night and found them more crowded than Schubert Alley on May 4th.

BWAH!!

From Claygary -- Double Bwah

Damn no new news. heeee.

It's going to be a long day!!

Yay for OMWH!

Thanks for the survey CG.

Damn, if I'm not all into Clay having a baby LOL. Hysterical.

Happy Friday!

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djs, I actually totally agree with this. But what exactly will change this? I have no idea. Sure, celebrities can try to stop it -- but then you've got someone like Paris Hilton, who seems to THRIVE on it, which feeds it even more. And the other side of the coin is that for every person who calls this kind of stuff "bread and circuses," there are is another person who calls it "fascinating entertaining reading." Again, I have no idea how to stop this crazy train.

ldyjocelyn, the Hollywood studios and PR flacks no longer tell actors who to marry or whatever - And I think Ryan Seacrest will singlehandedly dump so much reality show shit on the airwaves - Kardashians, Lohans (I think), Denise Richards, etc., that this too may pass. When the hits and remotes stop giving validation - because this is all just for selling crap - then things may change. But maybe the new reality, besides people like Paris Hilton who basically whore their lives out, will be like the Brangelina baby deal - in return for privacy for what is a most intimate and personal part of life, the media can buy a picture or whatever. I am quite sure the media would like to be in the hospital room, shouldering aside the husband and medical staff to get that first glimpse, and hope for complications - bigger ratings and all. I think Clay has drawn his line, it is individual, and tough cookies for those who think they are entitled to more.

I would like to say awwwwwww, ya know, just feel that should be all there is to my participation or "inclusion".

My heart goes out to Jaymes, too, what a fucking wierd batshit morass of crap to read, all from people who have invaded her privacy, or been directed to do so by shit media, just to fill air time. Plus I think some at the OFC really just get off on being harsh and nasty in public with no consequences. If someone said that nasty crap to my face, I would deck them and gladly pay the consequences. Easy to sit at a keyboard and ladle out judgement - djs111 says judgementally :-)

I guess as long as I don't need to actually have those nasties in my home, it shouldn't bother me, but it does. Hopefully all the crap was anticipated somewhat.

I have never been swayed by the everybody else does it argument - I just say okay, if I punch someone else in the nose, does that mean I can punch you in the nose too? Usually the ass who is using this for an argument says Oh no, that is not right! Yup.

play, I don't think fans are evil for wanting to know, I just think getting all self-involved and angry about it is v. strange. And it is their right to do that, of course, but to berate Jaymes is to have lost a sense of reality and decency or something. Blargh.

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IMO there is a HUGE difference between PRYING and INFORMING. Once the cat was out of the bag, so to speak, not to say anything definitive invites prying. Just a simple confirm or deny would HELP stop it. No, it wouldn't stop it completely, but it would help. The gossip rags will still do their thing, but the more legitimate outlets would probably stop.

I am not prying into their lives but I just feel rather than have all these rumors swirling around it would make sense to tell us, his fans, his bread and butter, the truth - one way or another - not all the details. Just a "don't believe everything you hear" or "I am so excited Jaymes and I are going to be parents." No more than that is necessary!

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. djs, your opinion is your opinion but I really get the disapproval, I-am-more-moral-than-you vibe coming from you posts in response to mine. If I am misreading that, I'm sorry, but that is how they are coming off and I do not appreciate it. You have YOUR opinion and I respect that and I only ask you respect my opinion - no matter how much you disagree with it. I have as much right to my opinion as you do to have yours. There is no definitive right or wrong here.

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