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Geez njrp - does this mean you aren't 4Clay anymore? And who peed in your Wheaties today.

And we were having so much fun posting pictures and laughing.

I guess there is no place in this fandom where you may have a alternative view of Clay. Yes I am still 4 Clay but I still think he does some real stupid things. And I eat oatmeal everyday not Wheaties. I'll leave you with a pretty.

I have bolded my quotes. Feel free to delete them if you want. I am not into celebrating Mr Aiken and at his moment.

Clayzor, if what you say is true, you'll have to add "fucking stupid" to the list, because you'd have to be fucking stupid to ask someone Jaymes' age to bear a child for you.

OK, so I'll keep out of the fucking stupid debate BUT I will say that after re-watching Leno once cuz somebody was reading something into the Baby song and Clay joking about doing the extended version later. I didn't think that he'd be joking about that but here's the thing that DID stick with me: He had gone on recently about looking old and fat...well since getting off of the Paxil, he can't joke about getting fat, but he continues to joke about getting older. If he were having a child with Jaymes, I really can't see him going on and on about how old 30 is. Wouldn't that be kind of insulting? I know, I know...some are going to say that it proves that he thought he needed to get started on the father thing NOW cuz he's getting so old and all...

I think Jaymes has been trying to make him older and more her comptempary. Since he met her he has aged more than his actual age.

I noticed in that CNN piece that Clay stated that he hadn't been in LA in 9 months. That was from an interview when the AOL Sessions were recorded, which was mid-May. That got me to thinking--this scenario of Clay being the father, given the time period involved, requires that he drop off some sperm and then head off to Raleigh for tour rehearsals, go off on a Christmas tour, head to Mexico with his family (and no Jaymes) for UNICEF, off to NY for Spamalot rehearsals, followed by months of a grueling schedule of recording and doing the show every night, as well as some advance PR for the album. So if the actual gestation period is longer than 9 months, there was probably time to be present for an IVF process in late October somewhere and then take off for the rest of the time, otherwise, the sperm was frozen and he wasn't even around at all.

Makes me wonder IIT.

Good girl. Basically. Stuff could have had to have been frozen for a long time. But he's been verra, verra busy for quite some time. He did a Summer tour. He did a Christmas tour. He went to Mexico for Christmas. He jumped right into rigorus (sp?) Spamalot rehearsals, then a grueling schedule of Spamalot and recording the album.

Clay went to LA after the skating show. He did an interview from his car on the way to a doctor's appointment. Also Jaymes was in NC for Thanksgiving. The baby to be born in August was conceived in November. Who's to say where it was done maybe NC. Maybe that's why he will be sitting on his back porch this summer because the baby will be born there. There are medical centers in NC as well as LA that specialize in feritily problems.

I had a funny dream last night which led to me waking up thinking, he's going to be in a movie in which he's a father, and somehow this got twisted into him being a father in RL. And it was a girl.

lmao. Actually, unless medical records were leaked, how would anybody know that the baby is going to be a boy. Would serve 'em right, if it's a girl, lol.

They may not agree with with his stance to not attempt to clear this up but did you see Brad and Angelina trying to clear it up when the rags were saying Brad was moving out and leaving Angelina? No. It was all over the newstands. Next thing you know, they're having twins. Oh and then they were born and had names and then oops... They've taken the exact same stance of not addressing what's being said about them.

Since he was asked on a major television interview and was invasive with his answer and squimmed in his pants no one will believe anything but a yes I am answer now. The time to dispel the rumors if they were false was in 2006. He had the platform to address it at that time. That's why I think the answer is something that most of his core fans don't want to even thing about. A non-answer is percieved as a yes I am. This baby thing only perpetuates it.

I posted here last week about channel-surfing onto a bit on CNN Showbiz about an actress who was really angry because a magazine article had implied she'd had an affair with Bill Clinton. Her statement was very specific about the three times she'd met him and what the circumstances were. Someone from TMZ was commenting that her strong denial was PROOF that it's true. LOL. So last night I came home and turned on headline news to see if they were still showing the Clay bit, and Showbiz started up, and what are they talking about?? This woman who supposedly had an affair with Bill Clinton. So, no, denying it will not kill the story.

It's pretty apparent that denying a story will NOT kill it. There really isn't much point in Clay denying anything to the rags or on TV programs.

IIT, I wish everyone concerned all happiness, but IINT, I would really enjoy seeing the egg on the faces of a whole bunch of media who have run with this, with the only confirmation that Clay is the father coming from a statement from David Foster's publicist, who says he was misquoted. As for fans that will be pissed that he didn't deny it IINT, I'd say, you shoulda known better than to believe it.

That would be funny. But if he denied the kid now would anyone beleive him? TMZ would have to perform the paternity test.

He won't, but if he was to ever ask me, I would advise him to just come out. Let the chips fall where they are and live his life. Find true love. It would be the best thing to happen to his career in my opinion. He would probably be surprised at the amount of respect it would give him from the industry and his peers. Seing as how I believe his OTT fans are an albatross around his neck, way more than who he sleeps with has ever been. If he came out, then there would be no need for fans to engage the swamp people. No need to even go to sights like PH or John what's his name? No need for fans to go and protect him on every site they can find with a gay inuendo made on there. Or a less than flattering statement made about Clay in some obscure person's blog. There would be no need for the late night comics and others to make jokes insinuating his sexuality. There would be no need for fans keeping tabs on other fans who might believe he is gay. It would put an end to fans at OFC trying to run other fans off who belong to the OC board, or who think he is gay. It would put an end to sooooooo much. Mainly, and more importantly, it would be the most freeing thing Clay could do for himself.

And if he's not (and I really believe that he's not). If he was gay, don't you think that he WOULD have said so by now? Really? Why put himself through all of this crap?

I believe it will be hard for Clay to find happily ever after love now, either male or female. Jaymes will always there in the middle of any relationship he will have. That person would have to share Clay with Jaymes and her child. I think one day he may regret this decision. He has a long life ahead of him. Probably many lonely years.

All these things are on my list of why he probably isn't gay. My Fake Clay wouldn't mind at all coming out if he were gay, but he can't come out if he isn't gay. Hence, "It would not make sense for me to do that," to Diane Sawyer.

When I first listened to his new cd I came away feeling very sad for Clay. Just listen to the words of the songs that he chose to put on this cd. Yes, I know he said they don't necessarily relate to him. However, I disagree somewhat. They had to resonate with him, somewhat, otherwise he wouldn't of chosen them. I hear a man who is terribly lonely, and conflicted. A man struggling with the idea of staying in this business or giving it up so that he could live his life, A man who is tired and weary of his fans and their unsatiable needs that he can't seem to satisfy no matter how hard he tries.

LAA aside, I think that we listened to a different CD. I got an overall feeling of rising above it all.

I think Clay got everything out the CD that he thought he would. He was not going to push for radio play and without radio play a CD has no legs. He promoted and sold it to his fans. He was only promoting it through May nothing during the summer. He didn't try to increase his fanbase. He choose the best Clay Aiken song on the CD to put out as his first single. Why the rush to get this out? To get it out before anyone got wind of Jaymes delicate condition. I had wished that after this CD tanked so quickly that it would be the end of Jaymes and her influence over the direction or lack of direction of Clay's music. She was the one to tell him to stay in the lane to put a square peg in a square hole but it is much more fun leaving that lane and trying to put the square peg where it doesn't fit. I know he's tired of his fans. So am I. But I think he has treated us like children too many time lately. Now we are in a time-out sitting in a corner being completely ignored.

No she doesn't have to name Clay ldyjocelyn to her list. No one has to like him but they don't have to put me down because I do. There are many artist out there that I do not like. That's why there is all kinds of music.

Thanks for the welcome.

So is this a recent music list by Clay? Does it mean we don't have to hate Kim Locke anymore? J/k

Hi Everyone! I stopped in here last night because of the angst all over and I enjoyed your conversations. So I joined.

I think he is a better person than I will every be in including her. She certainly doesn't name him as one of her favorites. I think my opinion of her hasn't changed since 2003.