Couch Tomato

hey Zena...I used your hand warmer today..can you believe it? My office was freezing heee.

ETA: Cuz I know Lena and Zena but who the heck was Zana

The idea that it might be bad for Clay in the short run to be dropped, but good for him in the long run (and that RCA was "devaluing him prior to dropping him) was introduced by some people who coincidentally arrived at all the same conclusions as fake Clay's minions have been touting, but of course never believed a word of any fake insider talk.

I wouldn't consider the article about the status of Clay's deal to be definitive, but it's reassuring to me that he seems to be okay for the time being. It's a wildly changing music world out there, and I prefer that Clay have a bit of a safe harbor that I think a major label can provide. Let somebody else be the trail blazer for the new means to do music distribution.

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this. Like I said, I don't pay attention to Fakers or "insiders" but I do pay attention to my own awareness and IMO, and it is just an opinion, RCA did not do what they could for their multi-platinum selling artist. They gave very average promotion. I know people who were fans of his who had no clue he had a new CD out and they were surprised at the lack of promo he got because he was so successful and they considered him a major star. I've bolded the word acting because I think Clay is very good at diplomacy and he did make some statements about RCA much later which made me go hmmmm. Let's hope he gets what he wants and deserves for his next CD, whatever that may be. For now, he looks very happy and content. I have no complaints.

I think we can all agree that the promotion for ATDW was not what we all expected for a talent of Clay's caliber; what we don't know is why and I think that is where the discussions often veer off into the Twilight Zone for me.

Loved that EW blurb. I really don't give a rat's ass about that ghoul Clive (although I think he's forgotten more about the record business just today than most people ever learn in the first place) or RCA. I only care about Clay. And if he wants out of RCA I hope he gets his wish. But since I don't know what he wants and I can't read the future to know that if only RCA dropped him he'd get a great new deal with a record company that cared about their artists and let them do whatever their heart's desire without caring about the botton line, I'll continue to hope all works out there. The pub that Taylor and Kat are getting is just a fraction of how Clay would be treated by the media if he were dropped unless he had some great new deal to annouce in concert. And I don't want Clay at some indie company with less resources than a major label. Clay's PR was not what I wanted because I always want everything for him but it wasn't nothing. You wanna see nothing? Go look at Bo. And I think he's sold like 30K records.

We know a lot more now thanks to the meet and greets and I'm sure that's all interpreted all kinds of ways. But what I got out of it all is that Clay is with RCA for the foreseeable future. He had a hand in decisions about his career. And he's excited about the future. I admit my feelings on this are influenced by the fact that the fandom treats RCA like an open wound and it seems to bleed anew when you least expect it while the man himself is just living life to the fullest. It's so weird I feel they are still living his childhood too, stuck int he pages of LTS, and in a place that maybe he is long over or was never there to begin with. 2007 was a great Clay year and 2008 is shaping up to be just as great. It's really an exciting time.

JMH, and word on your post! Who knows maybe fake Clay read the board and stole all these silly ideas and fed them back to these people but it sure is funny how in jive the fandom was to what he/she was spouting. And I'm talking the extreme theories here, not just dissatisfaction. And I don't think it was just 5 or 6 people (although they will get all the blame) who believed all this nonsense either. So to make a long story short I'm going to watch some clack and enjoy Clay hee. And RCA and Clay and his album will get another go around this year - and I have no doubt it will be just as interesting as 2006. Fortunately I have a place to discuss it all, whatever it will be, in a way conducive to my peace of mind :F_05BL17blowkiss:

now, what's this about an auction?

Oh, my song of the day was BACK OFF CLAYGASM AND JAMAR -- These Open Arms. I listened to it mumble mumble times. Clay made me love this song this summer. And to the word collectors - torn must be added. And what if everyone you ever loved was torn from the pages of your life. Listening to it made me wistful and thankful for a lot of things, that my mom seems to be doing well these days, that my sister insisted I watch Idol 2, that someone thought well enough of me to send me the pretty green scarf that I had wrapped around my neck today.

Lotus your experience sounds just like so many others...it just happened later and at a more condensed rate! I love that new fans can go back and pretty much see any and everything they missed.

YSRN: I dreamed about you last night. Don't remember why or what but you were there you weret here LOL. WOW, I can't believe your tree is gone. Oh and you better get your deck fixed before the FCA grand extravaganza TBAF fundraiser we'll be having at your beautiful place

WOW!! I just got tickets in 7th row for opening night of Spamalot!! WOO HOO!!

And its only a short train ride on the Long Island Railroad away!!

Whoo hoo... congrats. I so wish I could go opening night..but alas... I can't. But looking forward to reports.

Ok, I just saved that picture 2 3 more times. I now have 11 12 copies of the same picture, all with different names. No wonder my gigabytes are um, whirring...

thread title heee!

catching up catching up...

Wow, couchie! Well, let me just suggest that if anyone wants a DVD of this "movie", better plan to watch it on your computer. Even just full-screen, it's pretty blurry. If someone watches this on their television screen, let me know if it looks better from a distance.

I will remember to be more appreciative next time I watch some super-clear, extra-steady, close-up clack.

Lotus, after all these years, I now divide time into "BC" and "SC"...Before Clay and Since Clay. Resistance is futile.

heee...

Oh I haven't watched it yet so didn't know it was blurry but I'm mostly just thinking of folks with older technology or don't have any room left on their hard drives for whatever reason LOL. I definitely respect the steady hand of the clack goddesses. I'm really in awe cuz I just have no skill at all in that area. Speaking of clack..hmmmm shouldn't I be downloading something? heee

Cindilu!! whoo hoo... double delights babe!!

It's been just over a year and a half since I entered this wonderful world of Clay fandom....so someone please tell me, how long before the obsession wanes a bit and allows me to keep up to my garden and housework and figuring out this new computer I just bought that has Windows Vista. OK enuf whining.

heee... keep dreaming hon. It's been 5 years and it ain't waned a bit for me. But since it's only been a year I'd love to hear how you found Clay...was it AI5?

Spamalot combined "movie"...megaupload, so first come, first served. May take a looong time to download, judging by how long it took to upload. I'm making new sendspaces for the two parts, which might end up being the best way to share this material.

I'm downloading now. If anyone would like this on a dvd just PM..I can make some copies this weekend and mail them out.

It never does wane because Mr. Clay Aiken continues to fascinate, delight, transform and bring it. He is one beautiful man.

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Lotus Wanes???? How long before it WANES???

Do you not see us here every day, slobbering over every picture and detail???!!!

Spending money on Clay like lunatics!

Selling everything but our bodies (not speaking for everyone, of course) to get concert money!!!

Do we seem like waners to you???

Dream on.

bwah...

you got that right. I started my little budget worksheet for NYC today. Well can't get online ..got to spend my time doing something

Just "Gah"

thread title? heee

normal, as you knew it, is gone; accept this 'new normal' for the joy it brings.

slightly edited for a thread title? You got that right bookwhore!

well crap..of course it will be gone by the time I get home.

help, why can't i see the pictures that were posted...can anyone else see them?

Cotton...

oh now I can see them.. after looking at 1000 more pictures of him I think I'll get used to the hair color.

bye FCA...see you tonight

No, the lines, I had memorized before I ever got there. It's the dance moves. They're like "Kick-ball-change-flip" and I'm like "What does that mean?"

BWAH! That blogger was fantastic. Kudos to her.

ah thanks Gibby for the larger picture..I could barely make out the smaller one. He's so cute.

the NBA it's fantastic!

Go Warriors.

I don't think I've ever seen 45 people on here at one time.

Maybe WE are the Clay Refugees site!!!

Poor Couchie Who are those bastards that think you should work at work???? WTF!!!!

bwah and yeah the nerve hee.

No. No one called me! And why not? Enough people here have my phone number! Don't you all know that good hair and NO GLASSES is very important information? If you don't see me drooling on the board, call me!!

bwah..I would have called you but memo rule number 6 - don't be walking around with the cell phone to your ear like you're at the mall. LOL.

OK I'm all caught up..I think I'll go work second job now.

I LOVE CLAY AIKEN <TM Institches>

Play, no reason..may have gotten left behind in the transfer. I'm remedy that soon.

Yay for Quiana...she seemed tired but she sorta came to life towards the end. I just think she needs more experience at the interview thing. But what a sweetie. She perked up talking about Clay.

Yay for The View.

Dang!! My momma always told me...."Never learn to play golf. It's the only time you get the house to yourself once they retire."

My momma was sooooooo wrong.

bwah..apparantly so!!

ok if this is going to be a permenent TBAF thing I'm learning... heee. Of course I'll have to rob a bank for the entrance fee.

Hi tinkerbell...welcome!

I love you guys..what a fun day..so much joy and smut and joy and love.

MUST.HAVE.CLACK.OF.THE.MAN.IN.BLACK!!!!!!!!

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Back from the grocery.

Did I mention I hatessessss grocery shopping.

And now I have to put everything away. I shoved the meat in the fridge, but I have to wrap it all better - in portions, etc. - and put it in the freezer. Not to mention cooking supper.

When all I want to do is wait patiently for the next picture!!!

bwah..this cracked me up.

The whole thing about the humanitarian side being Clayton... Claygasm said that the other day and honestly I never really thought of it that way for some reason. Maybe because in many ways it's the pop star that is the reason he gets to do the high profile stuff..but loved the comments from those that really know him today.

What a freakin' great day..even 6 hours later hee.

Hmmm...

My pasty white boyfriend looks very...tan/orange in that picture...brings back memories!

Bwah..yes it does!! and he is mine all mine heee.

Regardless of how you figure it, Clay is indeed our Million Dollar Man and I'm his cheap ho.

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oh definitely

Thanks annabear for posting the pictures. I don't know what's with this links to pictures stuff heee. Show him loud and proud ya'll! And so us internet deprived folks don't have to click on to other sites!! I'm depressed just thinking about it...

I love Leslie Streeter! She comes across as being funny and smart and cool.

She was fantastic!!

I just think there has been a bit of 'disappointment' expressed elsewhere because she forgot to record the cellstream. So it won't be available like...right. now. The people that were on the stream talked about getting audio and video. But I gather they are going out to finish their evening.

You know what..I just got through the day and you now what..if i never see a peice of clack from this day other than a few pictures I will be happy and this will go down as one of my all time favorite days ever. Maybe no clack will help people not take Clay for granted. He's a treasure. We got a complete glimpse into his day..and hell my imagination can do the rest. To every single person at the event who shared THEIR day with us...and every single person who tooko those reports and turned them into a thrilling ride..and to every person on this board who turned it into a fun ride..thank you. ANd if that's all I get, so be it.

I (apparently with a lot of others, except maybe...muski!) read your posts....

I was just busy watching American Gladiators! It is sick how much I love American Gladiators! If Clay was on American Gladiators....well, he would be killed, but I would love him EVEN MORE!

No seriously hold me.

We all got the dreaded memo today at work. No internet, no instant messaging, no phone calls, honor the dress code ... yikes. 2 whole pages with stuff like "immediate dismissal" and "written up" highlighted every few lines.

so I immediately said bye to Ansa and got to work heh.

But I was able to keep up on my breaks and lunch and it was so exciting. Like the old days before cellstream when the enthusiastic reports and then a picture would have us swooning. Loved the blogger. LOVED.

Now off to re read...in my leisure...

Oh, and while this fandom is immensely mockable...some things aren't worth our time. But I think ya'll came to that conclusion already. Let's leave specific posts from other boards right where they are.

Man, I had the DTs for a while when I couldn't get in!

god me too. I was in the middle of posting something when the lights went out.

i am so glad the board is up again this morning. i panicked when i couldn't get on last night and thought i'd gotten myself banned.

bwah... no need to worry about that justclay.

Heee, I think it takes a lot to get banned from FCA. Colored ink is rare. You'll occasionally see stillettos or - YIKES! - sporks, however, but it's usually in fun.

Even I'm scared of the spork!!

aikim beat me to it! More from Katy4Clay at CV:

EEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Who needs caffeine when we've got Clay Aiken?!

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no it's not my birthday..sorry..was just very happy to have something I said turn into a thread title.

I know I know, can't take some people anywhere hee.

thanks for the reports ya'll!!

Yes I ship everywhere. I have shipped pins to New Zealand and England in the past..and of course Canada. IT's actually cheaper to ship the pins to Canada now because the postal service did some crazy increase for the US. I was caught unawares about that with the DCAT pins so actually lost a little (not much) of money there. CITH broke even. And now thanks to the donations ya'll gave FCA last year all of this pin money will go to TBAF. Don't forget, if you want to pay by check you PM me and let me know.

I knew there was something I was supposed to be doing..oh right, I can just blame Scarlett too heee. :F_05BL17blowkiss: Scarlett.

I wanted to thank Caro for her great inclusion of FCA in her blog. Sales took a really big surge and we will probably double expectations which means TBAF will get a decent donation this time around.

heee.... yes the board did break. It's been down all night. I guess they moved us to a new server and it would have been nice if I had more than 6 hours warning that I didn't see until after it they went down and I went into withdrawals

Happy Monday

Yay for the great article..and this still makes me laugh

Q. I had the opportunity to meet a lot of the fans this summer, and they're the most loyal fans of anyone I've ever met. They're a little nutty, in a good way.

A. (Chuckles) I try my best to not use words like that. They're enthusiastic without question.

You're welcome, wanda. I was wondering if I killed the thread, or if everyone thudded on the floor, cuz no one posted for awhile!

yeah I was kinda knocked off my feet for a minute. hubba bubba..thanks gibby.

:attention_whore3:

YAY, it's my birthday, ahem... I think this may be my first thread title win since the first thread title and of course nobody got to vote on that one heee.

TWoP is Television Without Pity...it's a tv forum where I went every week during AI2 to discuss Clay.

I used to get flack about Clay from my new office mate, a very trendy, tattooed, contemporary art history person. Not directly, mind you, but she would make comments to others that I happened to overhear.

Then I showed her one of the 11 ways I know how to kill someone with my bare hands. (Seriously. She asked.) Now I get LOTS of respect.

I'm interested in knowing the 11 ways. Not that I want to kill my boss or anything.

but I started teaching her to call him Clay...cos daddy was getting a bit embarrassing...

You know, in some quarters, that might get you a car...

to both of you. You know if you don't like schmoopie, skip ahead. But I really love you guys. And I thank Ansa every day that I let her talk me into this board. I thought she was freakin' nuts although I think I told her that rather politely. It's just such a pleasure to read here every day. Now, carry on. hee

OK I don't think I've ever stayed home from work just to watch Clay. I must be sane :Boss:

Well I'm not into celebrity gossip. I don't watch the entertainment shows... never did before Clay and had my total fill of them during Clay especially with The Bennifer on the loose. I don't much believe anything I read about celebrities any more. But I do have one guilty pleasure and that's reading the TWoP Constantine thread. In my heart I know it's really mean spirited but I'll need an intervention to stop. I stopped watching idol mid season 4 but every other one I wish well and hope they succeed. Hell I won't be surprised if Constantine pulls himself up by his bootstraps and makes it either. The only celeb I know anything about of depth is Clay. I'm a sports ho and a Denzel fan and I know nothing about them. I just don't care..just like their talent. Don't know why Clay is different. But with regards to Clay I just care about him.. can't tell you much about his friends and family and who did what when. Just don't care.

Then I showed her one of the 11 ways I know how to kill someone with my bare hands. (Seriously. She asked.) Now I get LOTS of respect.

bwah!!

It was nice seeing you in Minneapolis. And she had on the coolest jacket evah.

RIFan, oh I remember the days when I would actually watch the clack, then stay up late to watch it live, and then of course watch the clack again. heee. And of course I think I have almost everything on VHS from 2003 and 2004. Somewhere along the line I started trusting that the clack would be there.

Some at work know I am a fan, but I don't talk about him and I don't have pictures around. Even at home my stuff is put away.

At work I am known as the "Clay Aiken lady". I have two computers, both with different Clay desktops, and I have a Clay calendar (which made me so sad when it got to the end of December, because I didn't have a 2008 one to replace it with. I have remedied that this weekend - Snapfish to the rescue!). I also have a wall of family pictures (kids, cats & dogs). Just to even things out.

heee too funny. When AI2 started I was in a company where'd I been for 2 years and everybody knew me. They sorta watched me fall in love with Caly and lose my mind. I never got any grief about it. I remember when I had to choose between the company xmas party and watching ACAC heee. I actually went to the office party but wrote a haiku for the contest that won. I can't remember it now, but the theme was how I chose them over Clay. heee. At my later companies..I never felt I knew folks enough to share.

I never get grief about Clay...oh, the occastional eyeroll from the kids when they get in the car and its all Clay, all the time, but it's my car and if they don't like it they can find another mode of transportation.

heee... I don't normally listen to Clay in the car cuz my 95 contour has radio and casette. But I know what you mean about it beign your car.... my 5 year old neice actually believes I can't get Radio Disney in my car. She trusts her auntie heee. But no way in hell am I listening to that.

The one I share the Clay love with is my Cait...she still loves watching ICHM...and the AI5 appearance. She also reacts appropriately when gorgeous pictures of Clay are up on the screen....but I started teaching her to call him Clay...cos daddy was getting a bit embarrassing...

Look at it this way. If they were good people, they would not do this. Some are jealous so try to take away from the joy of others. It is a mean thing on their part. I don't know much about psychology but I bet there are articles on this topic. I really think it says much more about them than the person they are trying to put down. So {{{{hugs}}}} and if it happens to you, consider the source and try to ignore them.

I think we are talking about children, husbands, family - you can't just say consider the source and forget it on them. They are family have a real actul relationship with these people. So you have to make the effort to see what is at the root of it all and work on that. I know in 2003 I pretty much abandoned everyone and stayed glued to my computer. Didn't want to miss anything. Frankly I think if I was married and had kids I'd be in the same boat LOL.

puts on her "expert" hat (it's got a feather that's only been chewed on a little by the cat)... Yes. They are all jealous, and attention whores, and have personal issues.

I'm in the same boat as Couchie - but then, unlike Bookwhore's DD, I don't play a bitch, I AM a bitch. Anything I get, everyone who knows me realizes I will declare total war. But my family likes that kind of stuff. I don't get teased over Clay any more than my other interests, like my personal library, or the fact that as one person in my apartment, I have three computers and two televisions and two cats, and my son claims I am clearly involved in some sort of criminal activity as my car windows are so darkly tinted, so all my nieces and nephews are now claiming that I'm "ghetto" and "street". Clay apparently works well with that.

And then here comes KAndre and says the opposite LOL. You need to write a book about your family!

Skybar I feel ya!