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Well yes. But in my own convoluted mind, I wonder if we have only seen the public face of this. I would guess that there's a whole world of other stuff that happened before, and in between, and to and fro, and after as is often the case with friends. But, as always, I don't know shit. This post said everything I had to say about this topic so I'll just quote it and be done with it. But on to other things... It's not??? Dang, I'm learnin' stuff here! Muskifest - we don't know each other. I hope we can remedy that. See, I have a deep and abiding interest in your lovely stories, most especially Clyra. I see that others here have tried to convince you to begin part 2, to no avail. But see? Unlike some others here, I have no moral scruples when it comes to Clay Aiken. None. Zip. Zero. I will gladly offer bribes. Your choice - money, chocolate, full access to my extensive and annotated crotch pic album. Or the ass album. Or the tongue album. Whichever perversion you prefer, I got it! Call me! Rambling along - I have to post this and leave because I do have another fandom. As I mentioned earlier, it's sports, most especially right now it's the West Virginia Mountaineers! And they play on teevee tonight soon! We have a very good team this year with potential to be more but I've been down this road before and it has never turned out well. Here's hoping that "wait'll next year" is actually this year. And if you wanna pretend like you care and like football, feel free to fake it and root for my team! Now I have to go and get ready - you know, dress up in my fan gear, prepare to scream at the TV, crack open a beer. What? That's normal, isn't it? (I need to learn the art of splitting up long ass posts into short ones so I can get off this dog walker thing. Sorry Raleigh and Durham.)

Yes, it's true. I'm just blazing on and not mentioning the food stuff. Good God, do people really eat shit like this? Nope. Is it time for me to mention that WVU has a football game tomorrow? Are football posts allowed on this board? If not, I could be in serious trouble. Scarlett - MUAH! But kindly do not tell anyone about how you arranged to get me a camera at Orlando after mine was taken (a whole 'nother rant) and then I never took it out from under my chair. I am so ashamed! And special thanks to all of you for welcoming me. I feel so validated! (I really need to study the emoticons here - I am lost without the laughing hysterically one.) One other thing I really wanted to mention - This is so smart. I always thought the whole message board mantra about not permitting posters to address other member's posts directly and not "talking about the board on the board" resulted in incestual thinking and a lack of self-examination . Don't get me wrong. I do think rules are necessary. I have no desire to participate in free for all insultfests like I have viewed in drive by looks at the OFC. Even though I happen to think I'm pretty good at insults. And I dont' mean that self-examination is only needed by others. It's been good for me. I have friends who, oddly enough, don't always agree with me. They feel free to tell me (not on public message boards) where they think I've gone wrong and how I might have expressed my viewpoint in a way that is not insulting to others. They don't say nasty things to me or about me though. They just say what they think. I so wish I could see this on Clay message boards. Oh wait, I have seen it. Here. Not that I think this is an easy thing to do. It's a fine line. You can't legislate intelligence. But I do think that "fine line" has broadened in some places to the point that only certain viewpoints are clearly welcomed. That's enough of that! Anyone got any good crotch shots?

Looks like my timing sucks because you guys seem to have moved on to "Weird food choices I have made" but I'm still stuck back There so I'll just pretend I didn't notice the time has passed and say all this: I so wish I had read this before I got home yesterday. Forgive me FCA for I have sinned. I found this board not too long ago, loved it, and posted a few times. Then these past couple of weeks I drifted away. Same old, same old - not enough time, stick with the old familiar, blah blah blah. My mistake. One I will not make again because: Ya think? I could not agree more. Everything Clay says or does is magnified far beyond its importance in the real world. But sometimes this can be fun. Unfortunately, it is also true that everything Clay says and does is sometimes speculated into an unrecognizable spiral that is twisted beyond all recognition. And sometimes anything that anyone else says or writes about Clay is magnified far beyond its importance. And often it is twisted too. For me, the reaction to this in Clay Nation is rarely fun. And sometimes it’s downright scary. Which brings me to the last couple of days. I’m well aware that most of you here do not know me. But I think the few who do know from another place would agree that I have a pretty well developed sense of humor. (Or at least I hope they would agree. If not I really need to rethink this posting thing. ) So, when this whole brouhaha started a couple of days ago, I pretty much was prepared to sit back and enjoy. My reaction throughout was that I mostly saw it as one more little blurb from the internet that I would not give much weight until, and if, it was confirmed by offisshal sources. My personal reaction to the tour concept was that it would not have been my first choice. Course I also know me and knew I’d soon be gladly knocking other fans out of my way to grab some front row seats. (Figuratively, people, figuratively.) But I knew what would happen in the fandom. Very predictable. One would think that people would have learned after all this time that, just because you read in on the Internet, doesn’t make it true. Apparently not. And don’t get me wrong - I have no problem with people who weren’t enamored with the tour concept and didn’t plan to attend. That’s fine. It’s to be expected. It’s normal. I also expected the teeth gnashing and breast beating. I do admit being surprised at the degree to which this occurred. All the “his career is over” stuff, some of it even coming from people who I never expected to hear this from, surprised me a little. This fandom really would make for an interesting sociological study. Seriously. "Crowd psychology" used to be seen only in actual physical crowds. Not so now - it has morphed and changed and is often found on the internet. You can look it up. Fascinating to see the “mob mentality” take over and see how people who initially “ho-hummed” at the "news" and were unworried, got caught up and changed their opinion. But as I said, I expected it. Found it entertaining and not much more than that. But then. I came home from work yesterday and read and saw the reaction to Clay’s initial blog. It wasn’t entertaining to me anymore. It wasn’t funny to me. The venom directed at Clay on the message board and in his blog astounded me. A little of it by people I call friends, others by people I had respected. So personal, so entitled, so demanding, so demeaning to Clay, so believing that Clay “owes” them, so proud of themselves for saying so. I must be clear though and say that it was certainly not everyone who did that. Some were thoughtful in their reasoning. Remember that whole “unconditional” thing? It was interpreted many ways but, for me, it meant that that I loved and respected Clay unconditionally. It didn’t mean I always agreed with him. But you know what? I love my closest family and friends “unconditionally.” I share my opinions and I tell them if I disagree with something they say or do. But I don’t insult my close family and friends, I don’t think they owe me anything except a lotta love, I don’t think I get to control what they say and do, and I don’t ditch them when we disagree about something. So to sum up this “post that would not die,” when I read my regular board and the responses to Clay on his first blog, I felt very sad. Very. I posted the latter part of that last sentence on my usual board. Then I left for awhile because I choose not to hang out with people who make me sad. I heard later that my post, which was just that one sentence, was edited out. I find that sad too. I’m glad I’m here now. I always thought this fandom was supposed to be fun! Silly me. And, believe it or not, and I’m sure you’d prefer not to believe it, I have lots more to say. Woe is you! But I’m sick of being a dog walker. Not how I pictured myself.

Good God! I thought this was a nice slow moving place where I could keep up. Gone for a couple of days and find I missed all kinds of stuff. I had all these special quotes saved that I was gonna respond but then I lost them and, really, it's for the best. This post will probably be long and boring and interminable enough. A couple of things though - There's a "Best of XXX" series???? Oh dear god. ...heads off to hide in a corner... (I can't find that rofl emoticon that I am used to and I've already written one thing here that was meant to be snark that someone took as serious. I need to study the emoticons next.) Fans? I don't think I've ever played the "good fan" and "bad fan" game. I'm pretty sure even the most annoying posters are fans. I happen to think some of them are fucking nuts though. But maybe that's just me. Never did get why, if you're a such a huge fan of Clay that you spend hours and hours on Clay message boards, almost all of your posts are devoted to constant and, at times, venomous criticism of everything he does. Unless you're a famewhore. oh On another note - I am catching up on clack watching. I just finished watching scarlett's TV Medley video from Ft. Myers. This video has everything I love about Clay Aiken. I highly recommend it.

Interesting thoughts here today. You know, I used to want Clay to be the biggest thing since sliced bread and I thought maybe he would be. I didn’t base this thought on any insight or knowledge, it was just what I wanted so I thought it would be. I’m in a different place now and here’s why. Disclaimer: this it total and absolute speculation and I don’t know nothin’ or nobody and this is solely my opinion and I could be wrong - often am. When I see Clay now, I see a happy man. I base this on public appearances - his concert demeanor, the meet and greet stories, recent TV appearances, the busline handshakes. When I think back to 2003-4 Clay, I’m not so sure I saw a happy man. Using the same criteria - concerts, meet and greets, TV, buslines - in my eyes, I saw a very uncomfortable person. And often, not a happy person. As I said, my perception only. So I have to wonder whether Clay liked the constant high wire act he was back in those days. The continual pulling at him, the moving from appearance to appearance without time to think, the concerts, the interviews, the photo shoots, the appearances, the TV shows, the book, the CDs, the continual adulation, and all that accompanied that. To me, today Clay appears much more comfortable, happy, and satisfied than he did 3 or 4 years ago. So I have to think that for him, a slower paced career is more in keeping with the life he wants to live. It seems so to me. Or maybe he’s just taken a long time to get used to his new life. Or maybe I’m full of shit. None of this should be taken to mean his career cannot reach great heights - it just means it will take longer to get there. Maybe it will get there and maybe it won’t - it’s no longer real important to me. I just want the world to see him as the man he really is. The Clay we know - the smart, funny, kind, and charitable man with a singing voice that can give new meaning to anything he sings. Some will like him, some won’t. I just want people to react to him based on who he really is not on some caricature that the media has created. Damn. What has happened to me here? First I post about Clay’s hair which, to quote a good friend of mine, is really just “dead stuff.” Now I write a post of speculation. I may need an intervention. Since I need to leave, I’m just gonna indulge myself and add this - I saw a few days back that there are several sports fans here. Me too! Me too! I love sports and I love college football and most of all, I love my WVU Mountaineers! And we have our first game today and I will be there! Awoohoo! Let’s Go Mountaineers!!!

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Haha! Where did you find that one bottlecap? And from Chapter Three: "And how merrily he doth play the skin flute with such agility," decreed Lady Hornworth. "Yea, doth he, indeed! I should happily join him in his merriment!" added Dame Tinglebottom. Spake Lady Hornworth, "Yea, he doth play it so well, that he must at times don his baggy tweeds to hide the result of such naughty play!" To be continued on Masterpiece Theater. A Masterpiece indeed! Tales of Ribaldry! Lady J where are you? Is Lady Hornworth a cousin of Lord Instrument? Is this in the fanfic forum? And where do I find that? ...confused... Thanks for all the nice welcomes here. I now feel comfortable enough to post an opinion. I usually say that I always enjoy Clay's hair in all of its manifestations even if sometimes I enjoy it in the "Ohmigod! HAHAHAHAHA!" sense. I'm mostly a fan of the longer hair - unicef Christmas, JNT07, AMA06. But i also love the Jukebox Tour hair. But my absolute favorite one time only hair was from The View in 2006. Like this: I can't believe I just wrote a post about Clay's hair. Oh well... I have seen so many posts about the Muskifest's Clyra story I am sorely tempted to read it. But see, I don't have enough time for the Clay stuff I already do. I have one story I read and I don't need to get hooked on another one. But tell me, is it HOT? Just wonderin'...

...and they were? Fess up, chickie! heee Kevin Studdard greasy spikes Mohawk photo graduation day loved Oprah hair. LOVED! heee Oh my. I thought I was the only person in the fandom who liked that. Though I readily admit to liking pretty much everything Clay does. I'm a Clay whore. Oh, good grief no! Not a real whore! Not me! That would involve money and stuff. It's a metaphor. Pinky swear. So. I've just been lurking along here enjoying myself. Nice place. Let me see if I can add a little decoration - How'd you like to wake up at night and look at this?

Hi! I’m new here. (Oh, god, I really suck at these introductory posts so please be patient with me.) Anyway, several people had recommended this place to me and I have been lurking the past few days and I like what I see! What a concept! A Clay Aiken message board where you can pretty much say what you think and actually bask in some Clay Joy! I’m pretty much just in this for the fun and seldom utter a critical word in public. I love pictures and humor and all Clay’s many magical parts. But it’s perfectly fine with me when others express their preferences and those preferences don’t coincide with mine or with Clay’s. What does bother me is the OHMIGOD ITHINKIMAY DIE AND THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT IS ENDING when a/ Clay’s hair isn’t perfect b/ Clay wears something weird c/ Clay sings something the poster doesn’t like d/ some obscure DJ says something mean e/ Clay makes choices at odds with the poster In other words, I’m not much of a fan of angst. I’m also not much of a fan of what I consider over the top and constant criticism of every single solitary thing Clay does. Especially when it is couched in emotionally laden terms. If you know what I mean. I’m also not much of a fan of groupthink specially when I’m not part of the group. I think I’ll hold off on posting my “how I got here” story as I have a tendency to write long boring posts that never really seem to get to the point. So I’ll spare you that. For awhile. I think I’ll skip the part about how I got my screen name too. I post mainly at CV although I am also a (very recent) member of the CH. I love CV for many reasons as it is the only board, to this point, where I have felt comfortable. I have also made many very good friends there and I will always be grateful to CV for that. But. Sometimes, just sometimes, I’d like to be able to write a post without getting my stomach in knots as I try and figure out if I’m following all the rules. I so hope I can do that here. So to all you Finding Clay Aiken regulars - thanks to those of you who have created this place and thanks to those of you who make it comfortable. Since I’m dropping in, I feel like I should bring a couple of housewarming gifts: (I know, I know. I cut the top of his head off. But I got the important parts,)