Glad I could help, LOL! My Dad, Sister and Brother all had birthdays within a week of each other in October and my Mom always had group birthdays for them...I think when you are a kid you prefer to be the "star" all by yourself. How are Mr. Fear's knees doing? Kim We just got back from an appointment with his surgeon. Both kneecap ligaments are torn and his kneecaps are split and have moved up on his legs. No wonder he can't walk without his knees collapsing. They are considering surgery on both again in March if the knees don't improve. Something about taking ligaments from a cadavor. ETA: He fell in the yard earlier this week and just fell in the kitchen now. He didn't get hurt, but now I'm really concerned. Oh I am so sorry...but how are they going to improve without surgery? Kim