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Did I ever tell you about my condition </momento>

Well because of it I put extra salt on nothing and I'm really used to it. The two exceptions are: watermelon and oatmeal - cuz without salt it's just nasty.

OMG, who taught you people to eat????

What the hell is tomato gravy?? Is it like tomato sauce? Marinara?

Brussell sprouts sauteed in olive oil and lots of garlic!!!!

Food for the Gods!!!!!

I'm just about to cook some!

Chitlins, chitterlings---same thing.

They are cooked pig intestines.

No shit.

Literally.

Yeah, like Mr. Mac-n-Cheese and Krispy Kremes is any better 'n us.

And you know, a blueberry muffin is nothing but cake with a good (for once) ad campaign.

ETA:

No, child, no!

Buttered toast - then cheese toast - THEN cinnamon toast (the sugar is a given with me).

Oh, thank God. I thought you were truly depraved!!!

OK, then, THREE pieces of toast.

I can go with that.

Peanut butter only goes with strawberry or peach preserves! Blackcurrant jam only goes on well buttered and/or cheese toast! tsk, tsk, merrieeee!

Pfui! Now I will have to make buttered, cheese and cinnamon toast when I get home...it's all you people's fault.

Is this like cheese and cinnamon TOGETHER--you know, on the same piece of bread (holds mouth tight to keep from retching)?????????

Favorite things:

Brussel sprouts!!! YES!!

Arugula

Tomatoes that smell and taste like tomatoes, not like the shit that is usually sold in the store and pretends to be a tomato.

Chocolate mousse (NOT the kind with whipcream, but the kind with egg whites)

OH (whimper, whimper), I'm supoosed to be on a f$%king diet!!!!

OMG, in college, I spent the weekend with my roommate and her family and her Mom was making chitlin's. I can still SMELL that odor. There aint NO disguising where a chitlin came from. Uhn unh. No way.

I've had enough.

I can put up with almost anything, but the conversation here has stopped to a new low.

:3:

GRITS! WTF can eat those disgusting clumps of white glop?????

For some reason, I think that with the anonymity of the Internet, people forget that those they are trashing are real human beings...with feelings. How must Clay feel when he reads that he's a fool and that his career is going to hell? How must Kim feel when she reads she is a manipulative bitch taking advantage of Clay for what may have been a totally innocent discussion about a possibility. Interviews aren't transcripts. Believe me, I know. My daughter and I were once interviewed for a Mother's Day article in the newspaper. The reporter came and talked with us about an hour, took notes, and wrote the most ridiculously inaccurate article! We were both quoted as saying things we didn't say at all. My daughter said it aptly, "We sound like a couple of saps!!!"

No shit. To attack people because of an article (especially in the world today when legitimate news sources quote that moron PH) shows a complete lack of understanding of the media, IMHO.

jmh- in response to your post above, I so agree- it is embarassing. They are now also discussing ways that Team Clay can go about publically denying this information- as if it is really of that much importance to anyone outside of the fandom- and also trying to decide how we, as Clay's fans, can go about getting the information out there that this was a false story. I really don't get the importance of this little blurb to the world at large- and I guess it boils down to the "people will not view Clay as cool, successful, etc, if he has to resort to this kind of tour" crap. Not to mention all of the discussions about how if it were to true, how he would have had to negotiate to somehow get higher billing, because he has sold millions of cd's and toured successfully x # of times, yada, yada, yada. Sometimes I just have to shake my head, and wonder why Clay keeps doing it. Hopefully, all of the good outweighs all of the bad- I just wish that the fandom didn't ever contribute to the "bad" part of it.

I don't mean to be a post whore (honestly), but OH MY GOD!!!! Please tell me people aren't busy emailing to set the record straight. I'm sorry. Other than a few Claymates, who gives a shit about this????? These people are lunatics.

I've been frustrated, sad, amused, and angry many time before, but today I feel deep and abiding shame at this fandom. Going off half-cocked is nothing new, rushing in defense of Clay is old news, hyper-criticism of Clay likewise, but to participate in deep analysis of a news item that was presented as a "maybe," and then to turn around and blame a single individual for it with no benefit of the doubt--it's disgusting. The strong voices should have been saying, "hold off," "give this a little time," "wait and see if it's true," instead of joining in to energize and shape the discourse of criticism of Clay for agreeing to the tour. Then some of the same people are ripping Kim to shreds now that we know he did not, giving her no benefit of the doubt when we of all people should be aware of the complexities of media and PR actions. The cruelty towards Kim as a performer and a person, the smug self-importance of statements implying that "Clay is too good for them," or "their fans should be thrilled that they have this opportunity to tour with someone so superior to them," are simply offensive. The face of this fandom has become bitter and ugly and off-putting. If it is affecting some of us, who are huge fans of the man, so deeply, I can only imagine how it must look to outsiders. Maybe I've just been blinded to some extent, for all my prior fussing about it, but today it has really hit me hard.

Amen

Well I was vilified on the Clayboard for suggesting that some folks might owe Clay an apology.

I am certainly not speaking to those who merely expressed concern, or even dislike for the idea of this tour. I'm speaking to those who used words like 'loser' and 'career suicide' and 'opportunist' and 'fool', both about Clay and his friends. Especially when these things were flung at him before he ever uttered (or typed) a single word about the subject. If anybody really believes that these words aren't hurtful and mean - that these actions don't bear apologizing for... well I'll just say I hope you never consider yourself my fan.

Well, if it makes you feel better. I completely agree with you. I think that some of these people fit the definition of a stalker. They have over-identified to the point that they believe they should control Clay's life and that he should do what they want OR ELSE. There are some sick puppies out there. I'm not kidding. I'm seriously rethinking this whole fandom thing---NOT in relation to Clay (that's safe), but in relation to the message boards and these vicious, mean-spirited people.

If I were Clay, I'd close down the OFC and just get on with my career, ignoring the boards altogether.

Is it possible...could it be even remotely possible that I would rather read the angsting, hair pulling posts over the "I knew it all along...thank you, thank you, thank you Clay, I knew I could trust you" shit?

Shoot me now.

Pass the bullets.

I have to rein myself in because I so wanted to tell some people that instead of the thank you thank you , they really should be saying sorry sorry. Seems I am not alone in that.

Yeah, you better keep that thought here. I've been moderated into oblivion for expressing that thought elsewhere. *shrug*

Aint that the truth. God forbid the obvious truth should be expressed in the midst of all the bullshit.

Is it possible...could it be even remotely possible that I would rather read the angsting, hair pulling posts over the "I knew it all along...thank you, thank you, thank you Clay, I knew I could trust you" shit?

Shoot me now.

Pass the bullets.

I'm just praying that some of the people who declared they were leaving the fandom over this supposed tour went ahead and left before the blog. (Oh, that we should be so lucky!)

I suppose it would be too much to hope some of the people who have been ranting and raving about how Clay doesn't care about his fans, his career, etc. and how they are giving up on him are choking to death on the crow feathers that are lodged in their throats.

I would have been thrilled with the reunion concert. However, I will be thrillled with whatever he does instead.

It's his career. He gets to choose.

Clay thrills me.

Bottom line.

I personally think that Clay is capable of running his own life and career and I'm just along for the ride. I'd LOVE a reunion concert on TV to start the ball rolling--think of the exposure! Whatever Clay decides is ok for me.

I REALLY have little patience for the people who try to run Clay's career and act all offended when he doesn't "mind" them. If people don't like the idea of the trio concert, they should stay home. Period. But, ranting and raving about how Clay is ignoring the fandom and losing them as fans is way over the top. Sorry for the rant, but some of what people are saying is just so childish and revolting that it almost made me heave. (Present company excepted, of course).

What this fandom needs today are some good crotch shots.

I suppose the same people who wouldn't go to a show in order to teach Clay a lesson are the same ones who would 'support' him by not buying ATDW (or show him how much they love him by going to the bathroom during Quiana's solo's or talking through Angie's or roll their eyes and boo when he spends precious moments giving someone other than them attention... but I digress).

:F_05BL17blowkiss:

ANY kind of tour that puts Clay on stage in front of me is all good. Since they will be on AI Rewind, this might be good. He could do it in the spring before his new CD tour. At any rate, I trust Clay to look out for his career, and I'll look out for tickets to whatever he decides on.

Canuck I am right there with you about Pala. I laughed so hard at Pala that I almost felt sick. I mean, my friend and I seriously had tears running down our faces and side aches from laughing.

It was a joyful experience (although I guess it's possible for some people to complain that he messed up the song).

Priceless. Just priceless.

Well, I'd rather see Clay laugh than sing if I had to make that very difficult choice, so I love the joking around and wish I had been at Wolftrap. My friends went and LOVED it bigtime. I loved the downloads. I guess people just have different tastes, but even if he totally screwed up ...say 15 minutes of a concert, Clay's concerts are longer than most (by quite a bit), so I think that no one should go home disappointed because there's still the other couple of hours or so--just putting things in perspective.

I hope that Clay is holed up somewhere (not.smut) with someone he loves, utilizing that piece of anatomy that he tries so hard to keep underwraps (and ties, and shirts, etc.).

I don't know if I have brain damage or what, but I'm just so excited about Clay's future and his next CD--and I don't even care what's on it! If he's happy with it, I know I will be. He's never done, said, or sung anything that made me unhappy.

I don't really have any expectations as to what he will do or not do; I just sort of accept him as s gift in my life. And, the wonderful friends I have made along the way make me feel blessed.

Without Clay, I wouldn't have friends in New Zealand, and I wouldn't be able to travel clear across the country and look up and see familiar faces. I wouldn't even know message boards existed. I would have NO CLUE what HDD meant or give a ratsass about CD sales. I would have no idea that new music came out on Tuesdays. I would know virtually nothing about the recording business. I would probably never have gone to Florida and I sure as hell wouldn't have gone back to Las Vegas.

I'm so lucky to have found Clay and this whole crazy world. He can do just about anything, and I'll still feel so just plain overjoyed with whatever it is.