justclay12

CG, I do agree with several things in your post or at least understand where you are coming from. I think a lot of the problem is the frustration with how long it takes. How long does clay have to pay his dues, how long before he gets a break on radio, etc. Sometimes it does seem like he's had a harder time than a lot of others because there are so many who would like to bring him down. But I think thats part of the reason he will be around a long time, because he arouses a lot of passion in people, and unfortunately some of it is negative. How many other people would get so much attention for putting their foot on someone's armrest? Too bad they couldn't spend more time on the good stuff, like the crowds he drew at Spamalot or his work for Unicef or BAF.

Another problem is that we do have such limited information. We don't know what plans are in the works or if radio play will build, and I do believe radio play is important, or at least some kind of continuous exposure, like a tv show or commercial. It won't guarantee success, as we have seen with Kim Locke or some of the others, but for someone with Clay's talent, it would definitely help. This is a beautiful cd, and I so want others to hear it, and sometimes I just want to beat some of these radio station pd's and dj's over the head with a big stick. As much as I want radio play though, I'm with Clay in that I don't think the ends justify the means. I don't think Clay wants to be pulled down into the muck of this business, and I really respect him for that.

i have mixed feelings about clay being on ai. i would love for him to get that exposure and to blow everyone away, but even though i still watch idol, i have a lot of bad feelings towards them. before it was a love/hate relationship, now i'm nearing the break-up stage. leaning a lot towards hate/love now. at least before it was somewhat entertaining, now its pretty boring, and the majority of the specials guests pretty much suck.

i hadn't heard that part about him giving gifts to all the people in spamalot. where did that come from? it doesn't suprise me though because of all the other generous things we have heard about him doing and the respect that he has shown to those he has worked with. another reason to love that man.

i just watched my titn video yesterday and i agree that its not clay. we all know that clay is extremely sexy without even trying, but in this video, it looked like he was acting at it, which was what was so jarring. not that i didn't enjoy it, because it was sexy, but i prefer naturally sexy clay to fake sexy clay. even fake sexy clay, as opposed to fake clay, didn't repulse me like constantine or ace young did. that put on sexy makes me want to vomit.

i loved this interview, not jay particularly, but clay was so funny. he was so cute when he played up the bitterness about not getting cast in his high school musical and then blowing a raspberry. however he did tell a fib when he said 5 years, 5 different hair styles. he's had 5 different in just the last year. the christmas tour alone had at least that many.

claygasm, i agree about jay leno and dave. i just think dave is smarter and edgier than jay, and not as much of a back stabber. he also seems more straight forward. i'd also love to see clay on the daily show or colbert.

djs111, i love your whole post, but this one i can really relate to:

I have had enough people in my personal life who used to tell me I should have done this or that in order to fit their vision of being happy or successful. It wasn't about me, it was about their version of me. They are gone now, I am much happier.

i have 3 sisters who have all done this to me, as well as an ex, which is why they are no longer in my life. and that should be a sad thing, at least for the sisters, but i'm actually relieved right now, because as i was trying to grow, they were trying to hold me back because of what they thought i should do or want. and i am much happier also because its almost freeing.

enough about me. clay should continue to be himself, and his fans either need to accept him as he is, or find someone else who suits them better. that sounds mean, but i don't understand why anyone wants to spend their time on someone that they constantly want to change.

i had to come here to cheer up after reading some posts on other boards, although claygasm, you are depressing me. i love this cd and even though i'm not happy about the numbers, i see that overall, the numbers are down for everyone. and i do hope this cd has legs because it is such a great cd.

i did read those posts from what i consider backseat drivers, who drive everyone nuts. i thought it was funny that someone was posting that he should have released the cd in the fall, when during atdw, some people, probably the same ones, were asking why he was releasing it then. thank god clay doesn't try to cater to the fans because he'd drive himself crazy. all i know is that i will be along for the ride as long as he is because he is so worth it.

have to go back and read so i can catch up, but on this page, wanted to agree on clay being sexy, intelligent, funny, and sings good. did i get all of it?

also want to agree on wanting to see clay on the daily show or colbert. those would be some awesome interviews.

i just wrote on the cb how grateful i am to whomever called elton john to let clay sing dltsgdom because that is the song that sealed the deal for me. i loved him from the first but i was a goner after that one. unless it was simon, which is doubtful, because he's such a butt that i can't be grateful to him. i also thought, while i was listening to those clips they played for his playlist, that he sounds so much better than anyone of them. and i am a fan of elton john's, but he just has the most beautiful voice that i have ever heard, and i'm old enough to have heard a lot. not nursing home old yet, but old enough.

i'm going to agree with clazorback on it's in everyone of us. its probably my least favorite also. it just has a churchy feel to it and being the anti-religious person that i am, doesn't work too well with me. it's not something that i'd skip because i love his voice, but its not a favorite. however, i have no favorites because i love the rest of them, including forget i ever knew you, which i didn't think i'd like from the clips. i'm even getting used to the weird sound in falling.

has anyone ever seen the nightline playlist? i don't usually watch so don't know what it is. i really liked the nightline article so i hope some of that is included.

and i checked out the yahoo site. could have done without that. only read the first page of comments because that's usually all i can stand, not only with clay, but anything posted on the internet. a lot of weirdos out there. at least on the first page of comments, most said good things about his voice, even those who didn't like his looks, although i think they must have trouble with their eyes because i think he is and always has been gorgeous.

boy, this board has been chatty today. i hadn't had time to go back to read all the pages but i'm glad the link was posted. i keep wanting to re-watch it because he's so cute, and i think the interviewer really thought so too. i love watching him laugh and be silly.

on the cb is a link to a cbs interview with clay. i don't know how to bring links over or i would because he is so cute in this. he's laughing a lot and looks so good in a suit and purple tie. god, i love that man.

one more post and then i actually have to get up and do something. its my first day off from classes so i'm being lazy.

i wish the fans that keep harping on what they think clay feels or thinks, or how the pr people should do this or that, would just give it up. this is clay's career and he is quite capable of taking care of himself. he knows more about his situation than we do, and he did try to address that last night, but some people still think they know better and that he is being taken advantage of. yes, he is humble about himself, but he's not stupid. he's realistic. i don't think he doesn't think its possible that someday he'll have a hit on top 40 stations, but i don't think its worth it to him to do whatever it takes to get there. if he gets there, great, if not, that's fine too. i just wish some of the fans would realize that too. he's not going anywhere because there is enough of us out there who love him to make him still profitable for whoever he is working for, as exemplified by his run in spamalot.

now i really have to get off of this computer. my poor doggie has been very patient waiting for his walk.

i love that interview from nightline. i tried clicking on the link though and it gave me an error. that is probably one of my favorite articles, or whatever that is, that he has done. it really gives a lot of info and builds up his accomplishments rather than glossing over them. i can't wait to see him on nightline tonight.

and can someone explain why i keep getting logged out. i go to post something and it says i'm not logged in. i did catch where it said i could copy the post so thankfully i didn't have to retype it again.

i just lost my post, when it said i wasn't logged in. aah.

i was saying that i didn't understand the coolness factor either because after the teenage years, the only people who seem to care of being cool are those self-proclaimed cool people, who usually have major issues anyway, ie paris hilton, justin t., rap singers, etc. most people grow up and realize that those who works so hard at being cool are usually snobby and exclusionary, which is not clay, thank god.

i wish i could say that comment to the dj suprised me but it really doesn't. i don't think craziness is exclusive to this fandom though because i'll occasionally check out other message boards for shows that i like, and there are nutty people everywhere. i do understand people caring and getting frustrated because i feel the same way, but i basically ignore most of the crap, or at least try to. i'm not always happy about things, like the low sales projections, or some dj's or critics being butts, but i'm going to stay happy. i have a cd that i think is the best that i have ever heard and lots of appearances coming up and hopefully a fall concert to look forward to. i'll let other people stress over the negative stuff, i have enough of my own. and i love omwh also, as well as every song on this cd. although i loved atdw's and moam, this cd is so much better, in my opinion. the vocals, the music, the variety in tones and emotions are all amazing. and parts of all the songs keep running through my head, which is unusual for me because i have a really short attention span so remembering even parts of songs is a big deal for me.

oh, and thanks for the responses. makes me feel welcome.

i thought clay was adorable on the view. could have done without watching hot topics though because i always want to strangle elizabeth when she starts talking politics. i can usually tolerate her otherwise but because of some of her idiotic statements in the past, i stopped watching the view once rosie left.

as for the extra piece, i never pay attention to those intro's and i don't think most people do either because they are so stupid. when we actually get to hear him, it was great. he looked gorgeous, sounded intelligent. who could ask for more?

i'm going to try to start posting more, at least for the summer, since i don't have to worry about what test to study for. thank god finals are over. yesterday was my last and i had a great day. right after my test, shepherd had hilary and chelsea speak on campus so i was a part of that. very exciting for me since i've never done anything like that (i had a very repressed life before clay). i would have been just as excited if obama had been there because i like them both, however i would have skipped a mccain speech. and to top off my day, my daughter had flowers sent to me at the house. she's been so great, especially lately. later, i'll have to explain my family rift due to clay. long story. but its brought me and my daughter closer so who needs sisters anyway?

clay looked so cute in that last video, and he seemed pretty proud of the fact that he was ripping the crotch area of his tights. i think thats adorable. and i'm hoping to get a close-up next month when i go and hopefully they will not have been repaired. i think i'm going to have to invest in a good pair of binoculars.

and playbiller, i would love one of those robot vacuums but i'm afraid my dog would try to play with it and destroy it. he's only medium sized but he can do a lot of damage. suprisingly though, he is good with his toys, unlike my other dog that would rip the stuffing or tear open every toy within 5 minutes. but my new doggie likes anything that is hard, cd's, pens, containers. so that vacuum would be history.

on a serious note, i just want to say that clay impresses me more every day. the way he went back out on that stage last night when he still seemed to be feeling pretty rough speaks so much about not only his work ethic, but also his love for his fans. i love him more everyday and lord, i wish there were more like him, especially one who is in his 40's, lives near me, and is available. pray for me people.

before i go back and catch up on all that is going on, i just had to post to say how excited i am. i've been listening to those 2 clips on wral and he is so gorgeous and i love the new songs. i'm really hoping when they get put up that someone knows how to make them louder because i also had trouble hearing them, especially the one with the songs, but they still sounded amazing. so much to look forward to this year. another trip to nyc to see spamalot as many times as i can get in, and a new cd, hopefully on may 6th. crossing all body parts. and i just heard clay was in the theater tonight. glad for all the fans who want to see him, but really hoping he doesn't push himself too much.

i'll be there on march 19th, and hopefully a few more that week. i'm going from the 16th to the 19th and hoping to get some sro seats. i'd only planned on going opening night, but then wound up seeing the matinee the next day, and now i need more. there's this cute guy in the cast that is really great.

i haven't been able to check this board as much lately because i'm actually trying to work harder at my schoolwork this semester, however i've never been a particularly dedicated student. i wasn't 20+ years ago, and i'm not much better now. thankfully, i'm halfway intelligent, so that saves my butt.

i did want to comment on some things i've read though. after saying how much i enjoy this board for its pretty open conversations without knocking people over the head trying to change people's minds. people have their own opinions on things and all we can do is give our own opinions. sometimes i've had a certain opinion about something, and then someone will give their opinion, and it helps me see a different side to the issue. i like that, even if it doesn't always change my opinion, it does give me more perspective. hope all this makes sense, i'm suffering from lack of sleep and i have a party thing i have to do for my daughter who turns 21 tomorrow.

sorry to all of you who are sick but i'm really glad its not contagious over the internet. also sorry for whoever it is on the diet. i have given up on dieting because i have no will power.

as far as the ott fans, whether they be the obnoxious ones or the fan police or whoever, i just read it all with amusement. some people just like to bitch about something, i think it makes them happy.

and as for the whole sexy clay thing, i agree that while clay may know what he's doing sometimes, i don't think he actually believes he's sexy and i think he thinks its funny. and that is why he is actually so sexy to me, because he doesn't act like he is god's gift to women. i couldn't stand constantine because he actually looked like he was trying to be sexy, where clay just is. he does it without even trying. i mean, how many of us actually noticed how a singer worked a mic stand before clay, or pursed a perfect pair of lips, etc cause there is just so many gorgeous things he does that i can't name them all. never before did i pay any attention to any of that. i listened to the voice, maybe thought someone was cute or liked the way they danced, but i've never examined every detail of anyone before, other than my kids, and that was for an entirely different reason.

ok, i have to go now and get ready to celebrate.

and god forbid that they'd crop that pic. such a lovely view. should have used a zoom.

since i'm no where near as good at describing how amazing he did as some of the other posters, i will try to give some random bits of info that i saw or heard.

one was that sean is there because he came out the stage door after the matinee. not that i could see him because both of us are short so i had to go with what others said.

another place you might want to use your binoculars is when he plays the guard and is laying on the floor when he is supposed to be dead. according to tiggy52winkle at the cb, some parts did not want to play dead. so sad my tickets are on the left side again, because he's on the right. another reason to invest in a pair of binoculars.

some of us got to see clay before the show this afternoon. we saw jerome first and then see clay, in his hoodie, walking behind. he looked so cute and said hi to us before he went in. they got there about an hour before the matinee. unfortunately, none of us were looking in the right direction, so we couldn't tell if he'd walked there or had been dropped off by a car.

jerome was very nice to everyone and before friday's show, he kept coming out the stage door looking for faye, brett, and clay's grandmother. they were probably held up by several clay fans and faye and her mom are so gracious, they probably had trouble getting away. i've never been in the same building with any of them and some times last night i was right next to them.

jerome had told us clay would probably come out after, and i think someone asked about the christmas concerts, and he said he was the one who wouldn't let clay do the handshake line. he said with all the germs and the cold, it wouldn't have been good. i told him that was fine because i never wanted to see clay like he was in long island again. it was funny because jerome had to ask what happened in long island and i had to remind him about the vertigo. then he thought it was in 2005 and i said that it was 2006, and he said he'd learned never to argue with the claymates because we remember it all.

i am so glad i was here for these shows, but selfishly, i am almost hoping there won't be as many claymates at future shows, and that clay continues to come out, because i so want to see him up close. although, i did make it within 3 rows of him after the matinee show so i am so excited about that. have never been that close and he is just so gorgeous.

i just have to repeat what others have said, that if there is anyway you can find a way to go to this play, you should do it. eating is overrated anyway. it was so amazing. as much as i love clay's concerts, i think this was almost better, because you could see the support of the cast, and the response that clay got was so overwhelming. and all the people waiting afterwards just to see him. it really emphasizes how much love there is for clay. i originally only had tickets to opening nights show, then i had to add tickets for march 19th, and after seeing him opening night, i had to go again for the matinee. i'd actually considered maybe seeing something else, or actually sightseeing while i was here, but said nah, that will all be there later. clay is only here until may, i need to cram in as much clay as possible.

and by the way, opening night, with the white pants, was quite a sight. i'm hoping to get a better view in march because i have row d then. might have to buy me a pair of binoculars to fully appreciate everything in them pants.