FearofH2O

I have to admit I don't know the words to "falling" other than something about loneliness within and I'm older should be wiser? A really good song but not my favorite.

It has a good beat and the kids can dance to it.

I think I like "Ashes" better. But what do I know? I always get stuck on "the real me". I love Clay's interpretation and emotion on that song.

Six of us went out to lunch today with a woman who used to go to our gym until she broke her arm. She is close to eighty and the funniest person I know. As an example for Halloween one year she wore a hospital gown with a rubber rear end popping out of the back to an exercise class. We were hoping to take her mind off the fact that her daughter has terminal cancer. Well i think she started to feel better because she started telling us some of the most x rated stories and had all of us about rolling on the floor in the restaurant. I guess she cheered us up.

The point of this is I wish I had thought to give her OMWH. Not that it's xrated but she might enjoy it in quieter moments.

Iseeme, I just don't understand worrying when we have absolutely no facts to go on. I'm of the "don't die til the bullet hits you school". Haven't heard anything about Clay neglecting any child. He seems to zero in on any children near him. I have no doubt he will fall in love with this baby, IIT, and any separation will be painful. JMO

By the way heard from playbiller again. When she got home from the Verizon store with her new cell phone charger, her power was out. Some times the only luck you have is no luck at all.

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I talked to playbiller a while ago for just a minute. She has no internet or telephone service and was on the last little bit of cell phone charge. Everything else is fine.

I have to admit; I am very surprised at how many in the fandom have a problem with Jaymes and Clay having a romantic relationship...considering how vocal this fandom can be when the media, etc. makes comments on the ages of Clay's fans and starts accusing them of ageism...well just seems like a bit of a double standard.

I find it very plausible that they could be in a relationship; two people who have worked very closely together for the past 3 years and the work relationship develops into a romantic one.

Yes, I know that Clay said he wanted to get married and have 2 kids and be a High School principal, but that was before Idol and celebrity does change things. That would have been possible for Clayton, but for Clay Aiken, probably a lot more difficult. Put yourself in his shoes; can you imagine trying to date and not sure if the person is interested in you, your money or your public persona? Clay has always had trust issues and I am sure that celebrity has exacerbated them and given his enthusiastic fan base, I can certainly understand him being gun shy about dating.

Jaymes is someone he knows and trusts...someone who has been there with him through some of the most worst times in his career and some of the best...has seen the struggles he went through with the label; she knows the real him.

Sometimes the heart wants what it wants and you just have to go for it; I am sure we have all made plans for our lives that haven't worked out...you take love where you find it and if Clay and Jaymes truly love each other, than I couldn't be happier.

I am Jaymes age, going to be 51 in September and very happily married; but if I wasn't married and some 30 year old guy wanted to have a relationship with me..believe me, I would be going for it!

Kim

Hooray! Aikim' s shipping so I don't have to get in trouble with playbiller.

Thanks for the congratulations. Mr Fear and I did venture out to dinner again, fortunately it was 1/4th last night's bill. We celebrated #43. I didn't even know I was that old.

Try on my wedding gown, sorry size 10's are history to me. I did wear my Rutger's sweat shirt from freshman year today while painting the shed doors. With the sleeves cut off it fits great.

Clay's new bio is great. I guess he's stuck with me as a fan for many more years.

I don't have anything to add to the baby story other than I am convinced there is a lot more to the story that we don't know and may never know. I won't do any shipping today since playbiller is on line.

Happy Birthday justclay! :00003653: May you live 100 years. If you want to.

Happy anniversary gibby and Mr. gibby. :nana: Our anniversary is tomorrow but I think we celebrated today when we took our son out to eat tonight and it cost us the price of a tv set.

Playbiller, don't forget to take pictures of your property. You might be able to file a claim for damages. Sometimes you can overlook problems, only to have them appear later.

The new baby situation sounds like there may be a litle PR spin involved. The stories appear to be more positive. I'm about ready to give up the IIT or IINT. I do think Clay's desire for privacy must be a nightmare to PR reps. And that the best friend with Jaymes is his way of saying that their relationship, whatever it might be, is no one's business. YMMV

Wheeee!! First page!!!!

It's all good...wine and cheeze doodles with less fat...

So you can really get low fat cheez doodles? Just what I need a new addiction.

Night all!

Good news on Mediabase. OMWH is still at #28 with 98 spins versus 92 spins for the last 7 day period. An increase of 6 spins and aud impression of 0.276. The song at #28, Apologize, is at 99 spins and lost -13, so OMWH could very likely move to #27 soon. Yayness. :00000442:

Right now, over at AOL Top 11 Videos --

Ashes is #3

Everything I Don't Need is #7

http://music.aol.com/top11

#1 is seriously close ...... even if it's not OMWH.

I finally found a request line at my local AC station so I'll request today. They have not played OMWH once. I have been streaming videos at night.

Here's hoping for a peaceful day today and no reasons to start the margaritas early. :1:

Hope everyone has a wonderful day today. Here's hoping Clay has a restful day today not that we'll ever know if he does. Hey, at least he won't have to sing Ken Lee.

What the heck did you guys put in the water today?

You were not paying attention? its the margaritas!!!!

Okay that explains it. Don't forget to put out the lights when you go to bed.

What the heck did you guys put in the water today?

Claytonic, that youtube was so cute.

I'm with Scarlett, in wondering how people ever thought they knew Clay. Despite his being in the spotlight so much and having video of his every move, how could anyone even think they knew what went on when he entered his home and the doors closed? I have a detective friend and I know how he could hear things going on in a house hundreds of feet away and even see into a dark house. That's how he gets evidence for divorce cases. I can just see some fans doing this. Eww!

I only know what he chose to tell us about his personal life and the rest of it , I just don't care. Some fans were shocked when he joked about his charitable efforts. I thought it was pretty funny when Jimmy Kimmel showed those Afghanistan photos of Clay and Clay kept saying photo op. All I can say with certainty is that he really cares.

Some fans will move on because of boredom, lack of information or their tendency to fill in the blanks. Some want to be peeking in his bedroom window, but wouldn't everyone draw the line there? I guess I'll stay a Clay fan as imperfect as he is just because I'm imperfect too and he sings so good.

ETA: We can hardly wait for all the headrolling when the announcement comes of the arrival of "Clive Roger Vernon Ray Foster-Aiken" or "Paula Kimbermee KLo Kelly Fran Spike Faye Foster-Aiken" (through the backchannels via our sooper sekrit source)

Now that is the funniest thing I have heard today. Although a wee bit irreverant but I guess that never stopped you guys before.

Here's to another great day sitting in the house watching my husband work on that darn shed in 100 degree heat. So naturally I would tell him when he comes in that he is sweating on the floor and would he please change again. Thank goodness the A/C is working.

My car registered 100 degrees but the bank clock said 102 this afternoon as I was coming back from the grocery store. My husband needed help outside with the shed he is building. I got soaking wet just holding up the darn walls.

I'm feeling bad that I wished away the rain.

Hey Lotus, this is for you. Sorry if its a little politically incorrect.

GEORGE CARLIN'S NEW RULES FOR 2008

New Rule: No more gift registries. You know, it used to be just for weddings. Now it's for babies and new homes and graduations from rehab. Picking out the stuff you want and having other people buy it for you isn't gift giving, it's the white people version of looting.

New Rule: Stop giving me that pop-up ad for classmates.com! There's a reason you don't talk to people for 25 years. Because you don't particularly like them! Besides, I already know what the captain of the football team is doing these days --- mowing my lawn.

New Rule: Don't eat anything that's served to you out a window unless you're a seagull. People are acting all shocked that a human finger was found in a bowl of Wendy's chili. Hey, it cost less than a dollar. What did you expect it to contain? Lobster?

New Rule: Stop saying that teenage boys who have sex with their hot, blonde teachers are permanently damaged. I have a better description for these kids: 'Lucky bastards.'< B>

New Rule: If you need to shave and you still collect baseball cards, you're a dope. If you're a kid, the cards are keep sakes of your idols. If you're a grown man, they're pictures of men.

New Rule: Ladies, leave your eyebrows alone. Here's how much men care about your eyebrows: Do you have two of them? Good, we're done.

New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket, water, but, without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink. You want flavored water? Pour some scotch over ice and let it melt. That's your flavored water.

New Rule: Stop screwing with old people. Target is introducing a redesigned pill bottle that's square, with a bigger label. And the top is now the bottom. And by the time grandpa figures out how to open it, his ass will be in the morgue. Congratulations, Target, you just solved the Social Security crisis.

New Rule: The more complicated the Starbucks order, the bigger the asshole. If you walk into a Starbucks and order a 'decaf grandee, half-soy, half-low fat, iced vanilla, double-shot, gingerbread cappuccino, extra dry, light ice, with one Sweet-n'-Low, and One Nutra Sweet,' ooooh, you're a huge asshole.

New Rule: I'm not the cashier! By the time I look up from sliding my card, entering My PIN number, pressing 'Enter', verifying the amount, deciding, 'No', I don't want Cash back, and pressing 'Enter' again, the kid who is supposed to be ringing me up is standing there eating my Almond Joy.

New Rule: Just because your tattoo has Chinese characters in it doesn't make you Spiritual. It's right above the crack of your ass. And it translates to 'beef with broccoli'. The last time you did anything spiritual, you were praying to God you weren't pregnant. You're not spiritual. You're just high.

New Rule: Competitive eating isn't a sport. It's one of the seven deadly sins. ESPN recently televised the U.S. Open of Competitive Eating, because watching those athletes at the poker table was just too damned exciting. What's next, competitive farting? Oh wait, they're already doing that. It's called 'The Howard Stern Show'.

New Rule: I don't need a bigger mega M&Ms. If I'm extra hungry for M&Ms, I'll go nuts and eat two.< U>

New Rule: If you 're going to insist on making movies based on crappy old television shows, then you have to give everyone in the Cineplex a remote so we can see what's playing on the other screens. Let's remember the reason something was a television show in the first place was that the idea wasn't good enough to be a movie.

New Rule: And this one is long overdue: No more bathroom attendants. After I zip up, some guy is offering me a towel and a mint like I just had sex with George Michael. I can't even tell if he's supposed to be there, or just some freak with a fetish. I don't want to be on your webcam, Dude.& nbsp; I just want to wash my hands!

New Rule: When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to hear '27 months'. 'He's two' will do just fine. He's not a cheese. And I didn't really care in the first place.

New Rule: If you ever hope to be a credible adult and want a job that pays better than Minimum wage, then for God's sake don't pierce or tattoo every available piece of flesh. If so, then plan your future around saying, 'Do you want fries with that?'

As one of Clay's fans with some maturity (not necessarily emotionally but age wise) I had a Clay dream last night. I hope it will make luckiest feel better as a fellow romantic. Now I never have Clay dreams so maybe this was my way of solving the angst of some fans. I haven't felt bothered by any scenario but then again I'm not a family member.

Clay and Jaymes had a press conference about the impending birth. They were sitting together and holding hands. This was how they were planning on announcing the situation before the gossip blurbs took it away from them. Clay pretended as if no one had heard that Jaymes was pregnant and he was the father. She was wearing a maternity top and it was obvious that it was close to the birth date.

Then Clay announces the coming birth and that he and Jaymes were not married but it was a possibility at some point. He also mentioned that it was a natural conception and there were no problems anticipated with the birth. They were both exceedingly happy.

The end.

I felt very rested when I woke up. :smiles_141:

Playbiller, I don't think people stopped listening. But there are too many things that seem to be priorities( Yahoo video, AOL sessions, OMWH single, vote on polls all over the place) and besides Clay didn't ask us to listen.

I love cutting up lemons and limes and I'll start lifting heavier weights so I can help out with security.

KAndre fondly remembers building the Fucking Cheery Car and is of the opinion she should have enough minions by now to clean up behind her...stops and thinks for a second (and did some research) - nope, she was just the first passenger...a number of fucking cheery people (many of whom are in here now followed) and then ldyj opened the car for business! Being chugging along fuckin' cheerily ever since...

Cheez Doodles 4 EVAH! Carbz RULEZ! Don't discriminate against the Doodles, chick! Mixes have carbz too! But guac can't hurt. Or queso. And really good homemade pound cake. We can pretend that's our healthly choice.

I prefer the crunchy cheez doodles rather than the puffy. Quacamole and homemade pound cake (not together though) are great.

DJS, I'm ashamed to admit this as it might get me kicked out of FCA, but I don't drink, except for water with lemon. :kotz0: So I guess i can't get in the cheery car with ya.

By the way, I really like Eric Roberts more than his sister also. He's just so real and uncheerful.

I can sympathize about the emergency vet fees. I've spent a few hours and dollars there. Hope your kitty is better tomorrow.

Wow I sure missed a lot by not reading this thread the last few weeks.

In my opinion the Democratic Party created a big mess this year that could ruin the chances of a Democratic nominee winning. I did a lot of work in NC for Hillary. I worked with teenagers, college students, men and women, black and white, old and young. I made one really good friend and met many wonderful people who I hope to work with again.

I knew it was an uphill fight in NC, but everyone gave 100% or more for what they believed. I felt that I would vote for Obama if Hillary lost, until I visited with the sister in law from Hell last week at their farm in PA. They have three houses in MD, PA and NY, but vote in MD. She spent four days trying to browbeat me into believing that Obama was the only perfect candidate and I would go to Hell if I didn't support him, Well maybe not that but pretty darn close. She kept insisting that all Hillary supporters were uneducated, white and racist. We were not speaking last I heard. Not that that bothers me.

I just hope I can forget this before November. Amazing how one person can hurt a candidate. I'm thinking she is the reason Hillary won by so much in PA. LOL

I sure don't want to see McCain win so I'm hoping that Obama offers her a meaningful position and I don't think V-P is it. Well I might be old and a women but my husband voted for Hillary and last I heard he was male.

I've read so many inaccuracies in the press that I don't believe anything anymore. This morning I got home from the gym at 11 and my husband said that Hillary had conceeded. He said it was an AP report. I couldn't find it anywhere and then he showed me where he had seen it at Yahoo. Well before you could say refresh it disappeared. Since this was when the polls were just opening in SD and Montana, I thought they would apologize, but no. They just replaced it with a poorly done cut and paste article saying that Hillary wants to be VP, from another anonymous source. We tried to get hold of someone at AP but were told that we could not speak to anyone. I think I've convinced my husband not to trust the news.

Hey playbiller, I wasn't shipping. I'm just saying that there are underlying emotions even in a friendship which might surprise them both. Not to mention hormones. Who knows?

Whatever the case I just hope they are both happy. I'm not vested in any result. But as has been said many times it's getting a little late to start denying it. I'm absolutely not happy about TMZ, especially if they turn out to be even partially right. I've been avoiding comments and blogs, never get Clay alerts. As far as I'm concerned, if true, this is a wonderful event in the Clay Nation.

At the risk of having another IGNORANT opinion. She is preggers and it is Clay's. I believe it's true. Did from the start. I don't think they will get married or that they love each other in a romantic way. Just friends..............Congratulations to them both I say and I bet Faye is ecstatic to be a grandma.

IMO, with the Jennifer Hudson one at least, it was probably asked of her as a passing question at the SATC premiere. If Eric Roberts had attended that premiere, same kind of thing. These red carpet things have "interviewers" throwing questions like that around all the time -- when Sydney Pollock died, celebrities were being asked about him, even if they had never worked with him. These interviewers fish for "sound bites" all the time.

What ldyjocelyn said. ^^^^

If there is any purpose to that story, besides a continued effort to put a positive spin on this (fans are happy, friends are happy) after feeding the firestorm to begin with, it may be to get this message out:

Eliza Roberts stresses: "People should understand: It's not like he's the donor and she's the surrogate. These are two people who made a very loving decision to have a baby together."

as the nastiest of the nasty out there are claiming she's just a vessel. (I know, stupid, but whatever.)

At this point I'm pretty sure that it is true with a few important details missing. I think Clay and Jaymes are a little more than best buddies. I don't think they are married but I wouldn't be surprised if they did eventually. Imagine the two of them alone after the baby is born looking at each other and realizing that they produced this child. Sounds like fanfic but I might actually remember some of those feelings. Hey my kids were born 11 months apart.

My husband just came into the sunroom to tell me that they really made fun of Clay on the TV Guide Channel. He said they were laughing about him. I stopped watching that channel after the first Close Up they did fo Clay. They are so witty. Ugh!

My husband is smart enough to run out of the room after dropping off this info. Good thing I didn't have anything nearby that was sharp.

Have there been times when I've felt I could be critical of Clay? Sure. But what did I do? Almost in every instance, on a message board -- I said nothing. Nothing. It's not that I didn't feel like saying something, but I was raised in the "if you can't say anything good, don't say anything" kind of thing. Is that wrong the wrong kind of attitude to be raised in? I would say if it is within your own family, or even your close friends, it could be. But since I really don't know Clay, I don't feel the need to tell him when I think he's done something wrong, or looks bad, or whatever. I might say something, via email, to a friend, but that honestly is the extent of it.

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I am the same way. But I might mention it to playbiller.

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I guess i had hoped that Clay would fall in love and marry someone close to his own age, but in a way, I guess I am not too surprised. Of course, we have not heard anything about marriage nor had a confirmation to the gossip.

Anyway/regardless, I am going to do a little armchair analysis here.......

this is all just my OPINION......

....Clay has trust issues, particularly with women and particularly since he has become famous. Wait, don't forget about Clive!

....I don’t think he yet sees himself as handsome when he looks in the mirror.

..... I think that Clay has found Jaymes to be a person he can trust, communicate with, trust, share with, trust, love, trust. . and a person that loves him with their whole being.

...... I do think that Clay loves Jaymes...... but I have no idea if he is IN love.

..... it is a shame that age seems to a factor for some (me included).........

Some friends of my parents married..... she was around 20 years older than him. They never had children, but had a very happy marriage and he loved her dearly. This was 50 years ago........ and yes, they were talked about.

Toldforthis, I was teasing about Clive. Clay has no control over who or when he falls in love. It's just gonna happen. I wish my #2 son hadn't married his wife but I wasn't asked so life goes on

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The first time I went out with my husband I knew it was different than any other date I had been on. I just didn't know why until later. This year we will have been married 43 years.

I had a client who was late forties, early fifties and was married to a 25 year old. It was her second marriage. She eventually left him for a real estate mogul in NYC. Sorry to say that's when her problems began after she remarried .

I still don't get the frenzy. Just reading, not going there, the original gossip site "report", It just says that Clay was a sperm doner to his good friend, who is an older than he is, and will take part in bringing up the child. What is freaky about that? It probably evolved at other sites but I don't get it. But whether they are lovers or good friends, I don't find anything out of the norm about it. I mean about the alleged story. Maybe its just me because I have some really odd family members.

After watching the Leno show again, I can't see why Jack Black is cool. He acted quite odd that night. :headbangerf:

I had lunch with two friends on Friday who wanted to know what is going on with Clay. They had seen something on the news. I told them I don't know and that everything is based on a report from a gossip site and that Clay and Jaymes haven't said anything about it. I told them I'd get back to them when the statement from the actual participants' was released. Then we switched to the real gossip about their employer's family. At least these were facts.

Isn't it tonight that Paula Dean is having a preview about her upcoming season? Clay is proported to be a guest in August. I'll probably watch just for a glimpse.

And while I'm not usually one to bother with stupid polls, this one makes my blood boil and I would love to see "he is a good singer" beat the other options.

http://news.aol.com/the-rewind/?feature=20080529152809990001

I see progress was made on this overnight so I am back to voting on this. At least until 9:30 when I go to the gym. Ouch!

Does this mean we can vote on this one more than once, and it will count?

I have always embraced my 'weirdness'. :F_05BL17blowkiss:

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