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So, he lied. Eh.... I don't care. I don't mean to minimize the feelings of those who do care, but I just don't.

I just saw a scan of a brief blurb piece on Clay in the NY Times yesterday, and the absurdity of it made me laugh out loud. I'm still laughing. I know it's not funny, really, but out of context like that, just a brief announcement with bare-bones facts about Clay and a picture struck me as just so..... I don't know.... out of place. Clay Aiken of' Idol 'Announces He is Gay. In the NY Times. Oy.

CG, while I don't agree that Jaymes needs to "learn her place," or that she was wrong to post, I will admit that I didn't have a positive reaction to many of her responses. I know it's my own issue, but I just don't like judgmental comments on anyone's posts, whether they be positive or negative. It feels to me like a teacher in class reinforcing some ideas and squelching others. The 'amazings' 'yesses' 'ding,ding,dings' and reference to 'getting it' irritate me, even when I agree with them. Opinions with content, in reaction to others' thoughts - fine. Evaluative language, not so much IMO. That being said, I loved her long post because she put some interesting ideas out there and it gave me a window into how she thinks. She is someone I am interested to get to know better, in so much as that is possible as a fan. I think I understand where she is coming from, though. And it might be the only way to let the fans know which pieces of their thinking reflect what really is going on and which are off-base. To that end, I think she was helpful. Another GMA detail from this morning - Clay sings more of Baby Mine to Parker. Cotton, if you want to search for Jayme's specific posts, you need to make that selection. The other option is to show the thread where the posts were made, which might be the default. You might need to use advanced search, I'm not sure.

It's out here (Philadelphia area). I picked up a copy in Walgreen's today.

I saw him, too. It was great to hear him talk, and he was his usual self - articulate, charming, endearing. You go, Clay! I'm feeling a need to go to NY once Clay starts doing the stage door again. I want him to give him a big, supportive smile. :F_05BL17blowkiss:

I'm having so much difficulty concentrating at work today. My head is full of Clay. I will admit to being surprised by the news yesterday, but in a good way. It's not that I had any investment in Clay's sexuality. It's just one more facet of an endlessly fascinating man. It's just that I feel so happy for him, and hopeful. I am so interested to hear him talk about it in his own voice, maybe to learn a little more about how he thinks about it. Everytime I think I couldn't be prouder of Clay, he proves me wrong. He's an amazing man. Parker is a lucky little guy. Not to mention CUTE! I can hardly wait for GMA. I'm thrilled to be able to stay home a little later tomorrow to watch. For Clay :F_05BL17blowkiss:

Yesss!

Bookwhore, to answer your question near the end of the last thread.... We have Spam tickets for January 4. You ordered them, remember? Check the rooster lamp. While I didn't tell you and JaMar yet, I snagged some very reasonable rooms for that night in case we wanted to play late. I can always cancel them if we decide we won't need them. :F_05BL17blowkiss: I hope we can meet up with some FCA folks there!

Me, too!

Works for me!

Ah, she can handle it. Cagney loves a good discussion. Hi, Cagney! :F_05BL17blowkiss: I know where she's coming from because we had a conversation on this topic over the phone. I love both ATDW and OMWH. I'm all about introspective, moody music. I like to think about lyrics and am not that into tempo. Sure, I like some upTEMPO stuff (not to be confused with upBEAT), but it's not where I live in my tastes. ATDW had a moody quality, melancholy in parts, IMO. He even made some covers sound moodier than the originals (SSTBTHW, HYCA), and they were 2 of my favorites. OMWH sounds more hopeful, but I hear a lot of looking for something, yearning. Not in all of the tracks, certainly, but there are themes. Or at least that's what I hear. I love the songs and the emotion Clay brings to them. What cagney and I were wondering about was whether the tone of songs Clay chooses in the future, or the themes he is drawn to, might be more joyful now that he has Parker in his life. We've heard Clay sing some very joyful songs, but they don't seem to be what he has chosen to record for the most part. My turn for a disclaimer (love yours, Bookwhore!): This is just a thought, not backed up by a full assessment of everything Clay has ever sung or recorded. It is purely subjective and likely to be influenced by a perception I have of Clay that very well might not match who he actually is in his real life, because, dang it, I am not privy to that. If only.... Edited for clarity.

Quarters? That's all it takes? I save change so I have TONS of quarters! And to think I was just getting ready to cash them in. Never again. I love to hear Clay talk.

hee details please Oh, just that experiment JaMar and I did that we've talked about before. We both posted a very similar sentiment using the phrase 'sturm und drang.' She got edited. I didn't. Her interpretation was that she was identified as a troublemaker and I wasn't :28: . My interpretation was that people read her posts and not mine . Either way, it was amusing. This happened on another board, of course.

sturm und drang I love that phrase. It gets JaMar in trouble, though.

Or that ultimate question...... did they put the placenta in the freezer or bury it in the back yard?

I'll be there on January 4th!

Now that is something I never expected!

Not me, unfortunately. What a special gift Clay gave the fans that night! I remember talking with Saltie the next day. Where were we, Saltie? Proabably whatever was next in the tour.

Just this morning I was thinking that I needed something like that, and what do you know, there it is. Thanks! It is tiresome to look up calendars just to find a day of the week! :F_05BL17blowkiss: Emmanuel vs. All Is Well - Emmanuel hands down for me. I love the song and the way Clay delivers it so effortly most of the time. I think he did it best in the 2005 tour, and agree with Chardonnay that Saturday night at the Beacon was breathtaking. I was there that night - impulse road trip that was a highlight of the tour for me. He makes some sounds in that song that take my breath away. I don't dislike All Is Well, and loved the triumph (or was that relief) in Clay's expression at the end in Merriville, but I don't love it. Too much struggle for me, even when he does it especially well. So, I voted for Emmanuel, but it's losing badly.

Apparently it's on in the afternoon at 1:30. I missed it too. Or what ldyjocelyn said. *g* I missed it, too. I'm really pulling for this guy! ETA: I didn't expect to see Clay this summer, but was still holding out hope for a Fall tour for a while there. I'll survive, but I hope we hear something about his next career moves soon. It's not about CD promo for me. It is what it is.

Once again, you're not alone. :F_05BL17blowkiss: I get the 'had to be there' thing, though. I'll bet it ranks up there among those moments that no one could predict and are just so special. That's the magic of a Clay concert.

It is! Happy Birthday, annabear! :fest09:

Gosh that was a difficult choice, but I went with TITN in the end, and I don't even like that song. For me. it wasn't so much about the song or Clay's performance of it, but what it meant on that night in that arena with the crowd going wild for Clay from the moment he came up from the floor through several minutes after the last note. Fabulous. No, I wasn't there, but it felt that way when I watched the video.

I love that. Couchie, I had a wacky dream last night and you were in it. You were eating breakfast and poured warm pancake batter over the platter, insisting that I taste it because it was really good.... and it was.

Ah, that was a great day! Bookwhore, that's the day Clay signed your playbill!