Claygasm

Me, too. I was just thinking that this morning. Me too. I miss it soooooooooo much!!!! Me too - again!! Hee, I'll let her out herself, though. :F_05BL17blowkiss: I'm out of the loop here too. Oh well, that's not that unusual..... And couchie, would you please have a birthday every day so my Twin would post more????

:bday2: :bday2: :bday2: HAPPY BIRTHDAY COUCHIE!!!!!!!!! :F_05BL17blowkiss: :F_05BL17blowkiss: :F_05BL17blowkiss: :F_05BL17blowkiss:

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heee... this is the definition of understatement. :F_05BL17blowkiss: but weirdly I find myself unable to ship for now LOL. Damn you TMZ! And I have never wanted to ship more!!

Don't like Dylan as a singer - except for Lay Lady Lay (which I would KILL to hear Clay sing!) but love him as a songwriter. Luckiest, I ADORE! Donovan! Saw him in concerrt when I was in 9th grade. I'll never forget it. It was at Philadelphia's Academy of Music - a beautiful old music hall. There he was, so cute, sitting cross-legged on this big pillow on the floor of the stage, just him, his guitar and his music. He was engaging and funny and adorable. Late to this week's party but I love both "Falling" and FIEKY. I prefer Falling so much more than Ashes. I didn't like the techno bit at first, but now I do. Nothing profound to add. I just like it. FIEKY grew on me. I didn't like it much at first. It felt awkward. But each time I listened to it I liked it more and more and now its one of my favorites. I think its a complicated song and I loved whoever said it was a song within a song. I haven't listened to this CD in weeks. Maybe its time again. Interesting!!! I was never a Clannah shipper before, but if this is true it would make me very happy!! Salt shaker handy, but it would make me happy!

....or what KF said.... Oh, one more update.... from irishbookgal at CV. I liked AIW hair!!! Not as much as AMA hair, though.... All time favorite hair!! Funny thing is, I bet the average Joe on the street would be more likely to recognize him with the dark hair than the blond hair! Hmmm. Maybe he and Hannah are more than friends. I never liked shipping them before, although I think just about everyone else here did, but I sure would like it if it were true now because it would mean most likely the baby stuff is not true. Of course, it could also mean he and Jaymes are just friends since she would have been pregnant before he ever met Hannah, but I am going with it would mean it isn't true! It would definitely mean he and Jaymes aren't a couple, though! Yes its rationalization but so what! So, anyone want to start a rumor? Maybe his hair is died brown for some reason - like a movie role! Maybe that's the big surprise that will change Clay's professional life Faye was referring to!

***Slinking out of lurkdom again because this piece of "evidence" CMSU!*** IMO, its called people seeing what they WANT to see. If I remember correctly, those very same pictures and clips at the time were used as evidence - PROOF - that Clay was madly in love with Kristy! She was singing and people kept saying look how Clay can't keep her eyes off Kristy - look at the way Clay is looking is looking at Kristy - etc., etc. Funny how time and a baby rumor changes how people see things. ***Slinks back into lurkdom...***

***Slinks out of lurkdom for a brief moment... (not that anyone even noticed I was gone...)*** All the time.... **sigh** all the time. And the thought that he and Jaymes may be romantically involved - IIT - makes me want to vomit. So sue me. And yes, I still want, need and think he owes us a statement. So sue me. And I still am leaning toward it not being true. I keep thinking of those Canadian articles and the quote from Jaymes' former sister-in-law and still friend where she said Clay is NOT the father. Funny how those articles have just been conveniently forgotten - and never noticed by the the US media. And unless his new bio contains a confirmation or a denial, I am not interested. And I am so sick of this subject I could scream! And I wish I could be as calm and rational and smart as JennaZ when I grow up. **sigh** Fat chance on that happening. Calm, rational, or grown-up just don't seem likely. Smart, maybe on a good day. But the rest? Highly unlikely. Especially on this subject. ***Slinks back into lurkdom with a heavy sigh***

Iseeme I feel you pain. I wish you had been around when this first broke so I had some company! :F_05BL17blowkiss: I agree that by the nature of Clay's CHOSEN profession he has sacrificed some element of his personal life. May not be right, but it is the way it is. I also think IF this is all true he HAD to know what would happen when the news broke - and he had to know there was a good chance it wouldn't break the way he may want it to. The man has been the subject of all sorts of tabloid speculation so he KNOWS. I don't think he is naive. He had to know what a sensational - and easy to distort - story this would make for the tabloids. And he had to know the implications that would be be made about him. He had to. If he didn't, he didn't think things through or he is incredibly naive. He HAD to know that much of the fandom would react with shock, disbelief or just think the whole thing was WEIRD. He even had to know some would be disappointed in him, think it immoral or be disgusted. And he had to know some would be thrilled for him and supportive. With all that in mind, IF this is true, he could have made a preemptive strike and made the announcement himself awhile ago. While it wouldn't have stopped anything, it would have made the first news of this coming from a legitimate source - himself - not TMZ. That gives him a certain amount of control. AND I think by doing that it would have helped his fans deal with this and yes, I think he owes us that. He is nothing without us. I don't mean to sound full of myself, but ANY celebrity NEEDS their fans to keep doing their job. If no one buys their product, they are out of a job. And Clay has chosen to create a type of dialogue with us - yet he shut it down here. I am not saying he isn't entitled to his privacy. He is. But as a celebrity, as a public figure, the reality is he has lost a great deal of his privacy. Having a baby is not private because it is out there for all to see. To me, the private part is how this baby was conceived and the details of his relationship with Jaymes. IMO, he doesn't owe us or anyone an explanation of that. But he does owe us a confirm or deny on the rumor. That said, I also acknowledge that no matter what, the wink, wink, nudge, nudge would stlll continue. For the people who think he is gay, this just plays right into that. IMO this needs to be addresses. Even if there are potential lawsuits involved, a simple "Yes, Jaymes and I are having a baby. We're thrilled. Hope you are too." or "Don't believe everything you hear" would help a great deal. In the perfect world he could could carry-on with his private life as if he were still the school teacher back in NC, but this is not a perfect world. Shit. I need to leave for work. I had promised myself not to discuss this anymore, but seeing Iseeme going through a lot of I went through the last few days made me feel I needed to speak up and support her position. I know what its like to feel you're all alone. And yes, discussing it solves nothing. It won't change a thing, but for some of us, it helps us work through things. Nothing is more frustrating than not being able to do something when you feel something desperately needs to be done.

And just to prove I can post about something else.......... STUBBLE!!!!!!! Yikes! Its after 1am and I have to go to work tomorrow!!! ETA: Muski - please note: No visible nose hair!

I read someplace other than the Canadian article - though I do not remember where - that the Foster rep had retracted the statement and I also read that the person it was attributed to had not actually been the one who had given that statement. Now, who knows if any of that is true because who knows what parts - if any - of this story are true. However, I got the distinct impression that it was likely someone gave the statement and said they were a rep of DF when in fact they were not. I also heard that the ex-sister in law is a friend of Jaymes' and they still work together on certain projects and in fact she still is friendly with DF. That to me gives her a hell of a lot more credibility than the unnamed multiple sources at TMZ. Just because People didn't mention the statement had been retracted doesn't mean it wasn't and just because they had "Claymates" comment on the story doesn't mean it was good PR. I also agree with Iseeme that the vast majority of comments and reports I have heard have mentioned BOTH Jaymes age and the AI. The one my mother heard on our local ABC affiliate mentioned he had donated sperm. I have yet to hear one report where the alleged method of conception was not mentioned. That has also been the laughing point by those making fun of the situation. I think that's the whole reason TMZ made sure to mention it when they broke the alleged story. From the first time I read what TMZ said I knew what the angle was and why. It was very obvious to me. I also disagree about them needing to decide how to respond if the reports are true. I think there would only be one way to respond and that would be with a happy statement from Clay and Jaymes. They do not and should not address the method of conception - as that is no one's business. But if they just issued a statement saying they are pleased to confirm the rumors that they are expecting a baby and that they are very excited and happy and that they hope everyone will share in their happiness and respect their privacy at this most joyous time in their lives, then that would be that. Sure, the asshats would still have their field day, but I think it would be harder for some to keep after the "dirt" on this story once it has been acknowledged. Its a slippery slope to harass a pregnant woman and once the general public sees them as happy, expectant parents, the rest won't seem as important, nor as tolerated. And IMO I think this should be done sooner than later to be effective. Now, I do agree that if this story is NOT true, then it is likely they are either evaluating the best way to handle it or they will just ignore. The thing is, assuming Jaymes is actually pregnant, no matter what they say, even if another father came forward (and it is possible there is no "father" as she could have used an anonymous donor), there will always be some who believe Clay is the father and will still believe he is gay and that he beat the small children in Sewell and any other nasty rumor that has been dreamed up. I guess I just don't see what the problem is with them issuing a simple, happy statement IF this story is true. I believe it would be the sensible thing to do and I truly believe it would be their best course of action - IF its true. Now I am done - or at least I am planning to be done, but I was planning to be done before and obviously I wasn't! I personally hope to be able to not talk about this subject again until and unless TC/Foster make a statement. I am not making any promises, but I will try. It has truly come to the point where the poor horse is hurt and dying and I love animals too much to continue beating it when its down! :Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius:

Of course, do we even have reliable confirmation that Jaymes is actually pregnant? If she is and she is a high risk pregnancy, I would think she would know better than to keep going over to the OFC to read! Now that is high risk! ETA: Welcome to my world of the last couple of days, Iseeme!

Aren't you all glad I only was in lurkdom a short time??? Don't worry. I promised myself if I feel my blood pressure start to rise I will go right back in - for everyone's sake! But, I really do not know why it is so important to differentiate between artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization. In both scenarios conception did not happen "the old fashion" way and in both scenarios it meant Clay (IF this is even true) was in a room with magazines, a cup and his hands. Which I believe is the whole reason for this breaking news. True or not, does anyone think there would be nearly this much interest if Clay was going to be a father under what most would consider more "normal" circumstances? Nope. The sensational aspect of this rumor is the artificial insemination angle (or IVF but I doubt TMZ cares about the difference). And I believe that the whole reason that has been the most important and emphasized slant to the story is because it feeds right into the "he's gay" theories held by so many. That makes it much more juicy and sensational than if he were in love with someone in his age bracket and was expecting a baby conceived the old fashion way. How boring would that be! Not to get into a political argument, but this citizen of the United States would rather be run over by a truck than to shake hands with this particular president. Just because he got "elected" to this office does not in my book means he gets my respect and this particular president has earned nothing but my disdain.

Ok, we DO NOT know he's going to be a father. Yes, his career is not over. But YUCK! He had to shake W's hand??? Poor baby! Just a passing moment I'm sure. Very dapper. Very serious. Looks like he's trying not to throw up on W's shoes! I think you are giving People too much credit. I'm not sure they are much better than TMZ. If they were at all reputable they would AT THE VERY LEAST mention that the alleged quote from the Foster camp had been retracted no matter what the reason for the retraction. As for the follow-up piece, I think it sounded like another opportunity to make "Claymates" sound stupid. IMO, the best way for TC to put out good PR about this is to have Clay and Jaymes acknowledge it and say how happy they are blah, blah, blah. Of course, that would be assuming this story is true and I still have my doubts about that and will until Clay or Jaymes says something one way or the other. I think its just the lighting - unfortunately....

I'm lurking too but my question is why the hell would "clayandr" WANT to go read there and if she does, why wouldn't she make herself/himself invisible? And I thought "clayandr" meant Clay A & R, as in Artists and Repertoire. ***Back to lurking....***

Huh. And I am thinking just the opposite. I think if it were TRUE they would have made a statement. Now I think it's being treated like all the other trashy gossip about Clay that is out there...ignored. I had the same reaction. He doesn't comment on gossip that isn't true. I do agree with all this too. Especially how difficult the communication on this subject seems to be, because right now I feel like a paraiah on this board with most having very little tolerrance for my feelings on the subject - especially since I dared to compare this to the crap of '06! Glad you feel communicating is difficult during times like these because I am hoping it was just a communication problem that led me to the following reaction. I have actually been sitting on this for awhile, but I have decided to post it because despite the fact I think many over here just want me to shut up, my feeling is if your feelings can be posted and tolerated and accepted and respected, even when disagreed with vehemently, then mine should too. And I post the following with full knowledge I may be overreacting and misinterpreting the content and tone of many or all of the posts of the couple of days, but none of that makes my thoughts or how I am feeling any less valid or real. Couchie, I feel as if you are disgusted with ME on this. And are telling me to shut the fuck up. At least that is the vibe I got from this post of yours. Perhaps its just miscommunication. I hope so. And I will for awhile for I feel like I am a pariah here right now because I have tried to express my feeling on this subject honestly. But .... The comparison is real and valid. I am not disgusted by what Clay and Jaymes may or may not have done. I do NOT understand it, but that is MY problem, not theirs. I am disguisted by the mainstream media's willingness to report something whose only source is the likes of TMZ as fact. I was also curious as to why fans were so adamant NOT to believe the crap, but so willing to believe this. And as much as you and others may be disgusted with this comparison the FACT is it is still possible everything reported during the JP era COULD BE TRUE! We do not know because it has never been directly addressed. This thing with Jaymes COULD BE TRUE. We don't know because it has not been directly addressed. So why is the comparison such a stretch? I don't believe any of the JP crap, but a lot do in the real world (and a few in the Clay world too) - just as they believe this is true. Yes, one was a sleazy situation being reported and one isn't, but they both are unsubstantiated rumors reported by a sleazy gossip outlet. And in the real world people have found both believable - or not. Some have said its not comparable because the JP stuff is so unbelievable based on what we know of Clay and this baby thing isn't. Well, I disagree with that. I don't find either in line with what we know of Clay. So to me they are both just as unbelievable. That said, none of us really know Clay so ALL of our perceptions of him are based on how we each as individuals perceive him and obviously that varies widely. Frankly, while I don't believe it, IMO it is POSSIBLE that Clay could be gay, trolls the internet, has a close loving friendship with Jaymes, she wants a baby, he does too, he jerks off in a cup and voila! Hell, all the information in that scenario comes from the same kind of source and other than the fact Clay has stated he would like to be a father and obviously has a close friendship with Jaymes, none of it has ever been confirmed or denied by Clay et. al.! Disgusting comparison? Why? Because you don't like part of the scenario? My point is just as many here can't fathom the gay/trolling etc. part could be true based on their limited knowledge of Clay, others (and some of those same people) may have a problem with the latest rumor based on their limited knowledge of Clay. That is why the comparison is not off base. Whatever. Frankly what is upsetting me most at this point is the feeling that this time all points of view are not being respected or tolerated on this board - of all boards. Maybe I am reading too much into things, and if I am I am sorry. But I don't feel as if I am. Most on this board in the last few days have been extremely judgmental of posts that think this situation is weird, out of character with what they perceived Clay to be etc. Its one thing to disagree. Its quite another to judge. I am feeling judged and I do not like it. For that matter, the way there was a rare admin note as a result of Clayzr's opinion of Jaymes and her alleged relationship with Clay was IMO totally uncalled for and I couldn't help but wonder if it hadn't been that some here now think of Jaymes as the mother of his child if that would have happened. I mean, I don't agree with what she said about Jaymes, but how was it disrespectful? She doesn't think Jaymes is in Clay's league? So? She didn't say Jaymes was a slut or an idiot or a jerk or anything like that. What - we now can't criticize Jaymes because she may or may not be carrying Clay's kid? I've seen far more disrespectful posts about Faye and she's Clay's mother and there were no admin notes about them (thank goodness)! It seems those of us who aren't reacting to this situation the way most on this board seem to be and/or who for whatever reason are struggling to make sense of it all are being treated unfairly. Again I feel like I am being judged and NO ONE here has the right to judge me. Disagree if you will but disagree with respect. That has always been what I have admired about this board. But there is definitely a vibe of moral superiority going on here. Maybe this is all can just be chalked up to the difficulty in written communication on this. Maybe if we were able to sit around with wine and cheese (or cheese doodles) it wouldn't seem that way. But right now I am being made to feel very uncomfortable on this board and I never thought I would say that. I so hope I am overreacting. I do. But I am shocked at how so many of the posts have made me feel. I actually came on here earlier today feeling better about things and then I read couchie's post and it went downhill from there. And I guess after this post I won't be invited to the retreat....... As if this wasn't long enough - I saw these two posts at the CH and thought they were something to keep in mind. webweaver wrote Wouldn't it be sad if all the, well, I guess hurt, being inflicted on each other - and on Clay in some circles - is all over something that isn't true? Frankly, when you look at the facts (of which there are none), why the hell is this even being given any attention? propunder wrote My favorite scenario too - if this time they were caught with their pants down - and nothing to show for it! If nothing else, maybe this post will be a lesson on how really hard it is sometimes to communicate clearly on a message board. Now, hopefully without regret, I hit submit....

Well naturally the reaction will be different. Those two stories are not even comparable. Two years ago that was such a sleazy story it never got reported in the regular entertainment news. That story also characterized Clay in a way that is totally unbelievable. This story involves a woman that we all know is a very special person in Clay;s life and involves an act of love and very positive. This is believable...and in line with the Clay we got to know...the crap 2 years ago was just the raving fantasies of a lunatic stalker looking for attention. I don't find it believable at all. I think that is one reason I am having such a hard time with it. Well, one of many reasons.... It just does not jive with MY perception of Clay based on things HE has said in the past regarding children, marriage, family. etc. Frankly, the sleaze could be just as valid as this - and I didn't believe that either. That didn't jive with my perception of Clay either! So to me, they are very much the same thing. If we considered the source as one reason not to believe the crap, then we should be considering the source as one reason not to believe this either. The source is no more reliable then than it is now. Now I really am going to bed!

Can you explain? I haven't heard anything other than they talked a lot about his hair! From what I understand, a planned (and heavily promoted) piece on that show about Jaymes became....a piece on his hair changes over the years. Doesn't sound like a subject that needed to be featured today to me, but hey...his hair is gorgeous! Other entertainment "news" shows have had nothing. Not one word. It just says to me that his PR firm has been busy controlling; that's GOOD news to me. That's what they're there for. But I've certainly been dead wrong before! And could be this time. Thanks. But I would hope if Clay's PR people were going to change the focus of the story they would have maybe changed it to something like, oh let's see, perhaps his new album, rather than focusing on his hair! Maybe there just wasn't enough about Jaymes to report on. Other than this rumor and being DF's sister does she have any real claims to fame? I'm going to bed. My head aches from all this. I really wish someone like Clay and/or Jaymes would clear this up for real so I could get on with my life! And get my blood pressure down! Thanks for worrying about me muski!! :F_05BL17blowkiss: The aneurysm is under control - for now, anyway!

Key word: FRIENDSHIP. The big deal to me can be explained in one word - Oedipus. Standing by you, caring about you, loving you as a friend - that is one thing. Donating your sperm is quite another! Bookwhore, I so agree with you on everything you posted. And weird is the one word I have used over and over and over and over........ It is what it is and IF it is true, I will just have to deal. And it won't be easy for so many reasons. But this whole thing has made me look at the so-called legitimate new outlets in a totally different light - and one that does not make happy. In fact, it scares me. In the end, it isn't my life and whatever Clay does or doesn't do with his is not my business. But I still think it needs to be addressed one way or the other - briefly - and I still think its is beyond weird on so many levels. And I still think there is a very good chance it isn't even true. Clay has made it a policy to not comment on things that are not true, after all. Maybe I will go find a library tomorrow and see if they have muski's book. I need a good distraction. ETA: Can you explain? I haven't heard anything other than they talked a lot about his hair!

Here is that picture of Clay and family and friends: I just don't see romantic love in that picture!

I have it somewhere and it was posted at the CH recently. With all due respect to kf, I will never get why that picture indicates anymore than friendship. Clay looks like crap. They are not standing anywhere near each other or even looking at each other. A whole bunch of other people are in it, including Jamie. Just looks like a fun gathering of friends and family to me. I totally agree, but not romantic love necessarily. From what he wrote I think that's a HUGE stretch.

The following post is not about whether or not I like this whole rumor!! But it is a bit related..... Its about the media. The mainstream media that seemingly has picked this story up and is reporting it as FACT when the ONLY source is a gossip site known to exaggerate, mislead, maybe even LIE. My mother told me that she heard about it on our local ABC affiliate's news. This is what she said they said - that Clay was going to be a father. He had donated his sperm to some 50 year old woman (she couldn't remember who she was) and she is expecting the baby sometime this summer. However he will play a role in the child's life. Absolutely no mention where this information came from. Absolutely no mention that it had not been confirmed by anyone on either side. Absolutely no mention that Jaymes' former sister-in-law and friend told a Canadian paper that Jaymes was indeed pregnant but Clay was not the father. Nope, just mentioned it as fact, like the traffic jam on the expressway. The only source is TMZ - a gossip site who sited "unnamed sources"! This is the same kind of site that reported the crap, yet no one reported that on mainstream TV as fact! I do not get it. Why is it so easy to believe this when reported by a site like TMZ and not confirmed by anyone close to the situation, even by those in this fandom, yet no one would take TMZ's word for it if they were reporting he was caught trolling for men on the internet? I do not get it. What happened to checking your sources? What happened to consider your source for that matter? And why aren't more in this fandom - or anywhere - taking out that handy dandy salt lick this time???? This story has no more factual validity than the crap did. Yet people are believing it so easily. Even the mainstream media. Just does not make sense. By the way, my mother found the whole story very odd. When I filled her in on the fact that it had not been confirmed by either side she asked "Why don't they (Clay and/or Jaymes) just say something one way or the other?" Yeah, that. I told her Clay has made it a policy to not comment on gossip so maybe that is why. When I told her about the former sister-in-law's comments she wondered why that wasn't reported. Good question. What will they do if it ever comes out that Clay is NOT the sperm donor to Jaymes' baby? Will they report that? Probably not. They just don't seem to care about facts and truth anymore. The fact that mainstream media regards TMZ as a reliable source is very scary to me. Very. On the other hand, my mother asked if I had seen Clay on Leno last night. I told her it was a rerun but asked what she thought. She said he was very funny but he was just too pretty for a man! And by the way, my mother was 36 when I was born. But my father was not 16.

MAYBE!!!!! We have no reliable confirmation this wacked out story is true!!!! IT IS NOT CONFIRMED BY ANY RELIABLE SOURCE!!! Just because its news some of you may like doesn't mean its any more confirmed than all the JP crap was. I still don't understand why this news makes anyone happy or excited. Its not like this is Clay's last best chance to have a kid! And it screams problems down the line - many more than if he actually fell in love and got married and had kids that way. AND it will make both Jaymes and him even more apt to be tabloid fodder, not to mention the poor unsuspecting kid. I know Clay loves kids and wants to be a father some day, but now? Under these circumstances? IF this is true - and in my mind by looking at the evidence it is a HUGE IF - I understand it was his choice and I assume he would be thrilled. I just think it is weird and no one can ever convince me he thought this one through. My God, the woman is old enough to be his mother and IF this is true, she'll be having his kid???? That isn't weird?? Sorry. For every post I read about how wonderful it is - WHEN IT MAY NOT BE TRUE - I get more and more squicked out. So you will just have to put up with my posting how much I hate the idea that it might be true! I will just go on record that I hate everything about it and HOPE it isn't true. God, just as I thought I was ok with it because I truly believed there is a better chance it isn't true than it is true!

You don't have to get snitty about it! I'm not discussing this anymore. I think he owes us a response. I also think he should get rid of the blond hair. What I want and what I will get are two different things. That I can accept. But I do have a question. Why do people HOPE its true? I can understand being happy for him and Jaymes IF it is true, but why HOPE its true and be disappointed if it isn't true? That I don't get at all.

I don't want his inner most thoughts. Just a simple yes or no would suffice! Any of us can see the same things happening and have different interpretations. For example, where you saw goo-goo eyes, I just saw eyes. They took an elevator up to a floor together - not his room. His "entourage" probably was all on the same floor. For that matter, who said they even got off on the same floor? Walking Durham - a friend can't walk Durham? She calls him Clayton - his real life friends call him Clayton. There used to be reports back in 2004 that he stayed at Kelly's when in California. So he stays at Jaymes' when he's in California? Friends can't stay with friends? Kelly and Ruben stayed with him in NC! Sure, you can look at all those "facts" and turn them into shipping - proof that they are more than just friends, just as people did with Kristy and Kelly and Tyra and most recently Hannah (remember the woman with the accent in Whole Foods?). But you can also look at those "facts" and see just friendship. I am not denying they have a close bond. They are very close friends to be sure. But more than that? I don't think so. While I have always thought he would end up with an older woman, I just cannot imagine him involved with one old enough to be his mother! That said, I suppose its possible that because of their very close friendship he would donate his little swimmers to help Jaymes out, but as I have said before, that is just not something I can wrap my mind around. Right now the only people saying for sure that Clay is the daddy are folks who got their information from TMZ. A source which I bet has more credibility than TMZ - Jaymes' former sister in law and friend - says its not true. So logic tells me to go with the sister-in-law, not TMZ. Only if I hear differently from Clay and/or Jaymes will I believe they are having a kid together.