ldyjocelyn

Thanks for the "photographic evidence" keepingfaith. I enjoyed it as a photo montage. BUT -- I still think people are seeing what they want to see in this. I've seen Clay look at others the way he's looking at her. I just think he's close to her as a 67th cousin 15 times removed, and as a friend. JMO, YMMV, all those silly letters. I just want Clay happy, you know? Besides, I thought his looks of happiness was all because he was leaving RCA, until he spoiled that story a few weeks ago. *g*

ok, this made me laugh...yeah, I'm easy, I know. Yes....because that's just smut. And we're Clay Aiken fans. And he knows we like the double entendre. Totally agree with this. There are many people out there who are "touchers." It has nothing to do with sensuality, at least in the conscious sense. It seems to me that Clay could be one, and like laughn, I'm not sure if the chicken or the egg came first. Also totally agree about the projection aspect. I think that while there is a bunch of stuff that he does where he so KNOWS it's going to make the girls screams...there's just as much that he just does as a nervous habit. The microphone thing is a good example. I know it's a major turnon to many; me, I just see a nervous tic. A suggestive nervous tic, but still just a nervous tic. *shrug* Seat drama? For me, it goes on a case by case basis. I've done the "buy one crappy ticket and I'm done" thing (caused the best clack I've ever taken though -- thank God the jumbotron guy was really, really good that night). I've also bought 4 tickets to a single show. Upgraded more than a few times....but then also have been perfectly satisfied to sit halfway back in other shows too. I've decided that for the Merrillville Christmas show, I'm going to play "upgrade tango" and see what transpires. If nothing happens, I've still got a seat, one that I will be perfectly happy with.

Can you wait about a month or so? The FCA will do the work for you!!! Keep an eye on this thread. I believe the deadline when we're all supposed to have our individual recommendations is September 30. Again, welcome to all the newbies! (Has anyone set up a macro for that yet?) Good God, look at those toes! *off to find a feather*

liney, it has to do with timing. Anyone who registered with FCA before the beginning of July 2007, the board name and homeboard fields were not required. After that time frame, though -- the admins made an executive decision to require this information. Our reason? It was strictly to eliminate those spam-bot registrants -- those that like to register and then post links to "buy VIAGRA now" in a thread. I would venture a guess that anyone who registered before that cutoff date who now goes into their profile to edit will probably be given the "you must fill this in or ELSE!" message.

For those who asked (and even those who didn't *g*): At the bottom right hand side of every post, there is a button that says "Quote." On this board, if you want to quote multiple posts, just click on the button in EVERY post you wish to quote. Then, when you click on the "Add Reply" button, all the posts are collected....you just need to add your thoughts! I do tend to cut down my quoted posts to reply to only a particular section...but then there are days when you think you've gotten all the quotes closed, only to find that the coding sucks. I proofread a LOT around here. *g*

YSRN, thanks for finding the information on the second lady in the picture. I just had enough time before church this morning to pull the picture from the CH news thread, not research who else was there. Karen Eh?, yes I plan on being the "crazy aunt" as well, the one who spends all her spare time and money going to Clay Aiken shows. Heck, if my cousins can spend all their spare time and money playing 18 holes of golf, why can't I do something I enjoy? Fortunately, my husband and I have worked this all out really well...I get to go to Clay Aiken shows (but not TOO many), he gets to buy guitars (but again, not TOO many....). OMG, I'd almost forgotten about those pictures. That was a pretty cool day early in the fandom...and he was so....so....freckly. I'd love to kiss all those freckles. Adorable. Simply adorable. That's what I love here....it's almost whiplash inducing to be sure, but it makes it very interesting! Our first main linear thread ever, "Ready for Your Constant State of Celebration," started on July 10, 2005. It ended on March 4, 2006 -- a span of almost 9 months. (With two concert tours thrown in there, no less). The second thread finished on September 14, 2006 -- down to 6 months. Compare to the previous thread to this current one, "The Aiken Experience. There's Nothing Else Like It," which started on July 31, 2007 and finished August 23, 2007 -- about three weeks. The way we're going, this thread will be done by the middle of this week! Yikes! I see couchie beat me to it, but I'm letting it stand.... BTW, if anyone is interested in our "history" -- the main thread archives are here. I find it fun to just poke around and see what we were talking about on a particular day.... After perusing several pictures...I really don't think Clay wears a cup. *g* I have to admit that my first knee jerk reaction when someone says "What did he do to his hair?" or "was that note a little off?" is to go "no, no, no -- you're wrong!" But, being here on this board in the past year or so has helped me learn to resepct the differences of opinions on things like this. The key word? Respect. I think that's what drove a bunch of us away from our other boards, the lack of respect. Well, that and the seeming gloom and doom over an album that so many of us LOVED (or liked an awful lot) and the sales of 500,000 (which, IMO are pretty damn good). I've also learned that Clay Aiken doesn't need a protector in me. Things can be written about him that I cannot stand; I've learned to ignore. Things MAY have happened in the backroom channels at his record label. What can I do about that? Nothing. Allegations are made about his private life. I can't control those allegations, I can only ignore. And so on, and so on, and scooby dooby dooby. My life becamse a lot happier when I let go of trying to "protect" Clay. *note to self: jamar made a smut comment on August 26, 2007. Will keep notebook for a long time* Welcome again to all new people!

Hey Desertflower! Thanks for the explanation lajeterfan. I figured as much...which is scary because I know so little about baseball!

New picture from the David Foster Gala last year: I love that smile.

From KAndre's post of earlier today....:

Of course you can. Want a Cheez Doodle? Cheez Doodles are the official food of the eHP...

Welcome lajeterfan! Is the "jeter" as in Derek? Or am I confuzzled? If it is, you might want to check out our sports thread here. wandacleo, there are many on this board who are having concerns with parents or children, and consider Clay and the fandom "their escape." You may want to check out the Family Matters thread here; people in the thread are always giving support, advice, and hugs.

yeah...I do think there are times that Clay seem to work hard to make a schtick work...at times it just flows and I figured that is just the way things work at times. What I find amazing about Clay is how great he is at going with the flow. I think once something starts to feel too forced for him...he ends up changing t in the next show. I say he has great instincts. I think Clay has a situation that is a bit unique. He knows he has a fandom that follows every concerts because of the clack and he always has multiple concert goers in the audience...I think he eds up having the extra challenge of trying to keep his shows fresh for his audience. Banter lover who agrees here. Someone upthread mentioned the "Weezie" banter and how it got kinda old. My favorite of that is that San Diego show....where it just kinda happened. The next night, where he got his shows mixed up (started channeling Fred Sanford, "I'm comin' to join ya!"), was another favorite. But then....I noticed he started changing it, and by the end of the tour, it was pretty toned down (by Clay standards....I think he likes "primary colors" with his banter schtick too). And I'm sure that he probably does think about the die-hard fans who come to every show with what he does....while also trying to not alienate the not.just.us fans. That reviewer for the Orlando show got it right, IMO, when he talked about it being a big-ole slumber party. So.....why didn't you tell us?!?!!? Name is ldyjocelyn. It's a short version of "Lady Jocelyn." I was a member a long time ago of a group called the Society for Creative Anachronism, which studied the middle ages by recreating it. When I tried to sign up for a yahoo mail account many years ago, "ladyjocelyn" was taken, so I took the first "a" out. Didn't realize, years later, that people would mistake that first "l" for an "I". Hee. I was one of those silly people who thought Clay would "leave" us after the anomaly. Somehow, I ended up at TWoP. Funny story: I had read TV show recaps at TWoP for about a year or so....and never knew about the message boards there! (Sound vaguely familiar?) Anyway, finally ended up going with the migration from TWoP to the CH where I was for many years. I got to be good friends with couchie -- even saw her put shampoo on her face in New Hampshire one morning. *g* When she formed the board, I moved over here. In the past year or so, I've been WAY more active, due to circumstances similar to many of those from other boards. I'm happy here.... I've seen Clay 18 times....which either frightens people (atinal, do you think those ladies you met in Tulsa were freaked?), or makes people say "Psahw, that's nothing." I really can't pick a favorite performance or tour from Clay, because he just simply puts a smile on my face every damn time I see him. If I had my way, and I would if my hubby was running the show but I digress, I would have had 3 or 4 encore songs! Why doesn't he do encores, eh? As much as I would have loved for him to have added a few more songs to the set (IYDKMBN...heh), I think BYLM was the perfect closer. *sob* PM one of the admins and we can set you up with that... Hat and skinny black suite, or no hat with skinny black suit? If your answer is "hat," then you really DID like the Motown stuff. *g* You'll have to fight KAndre and I for that one. And KAndre has the stilettos. No counter, but if you go back in and change something it will show that you made an edit. I think the only people who don't have the editor to show up in their posts are the admins and mods. We're speshul. Not any better than any body, but speshul nonetheless. I LOVE this one. What a star. Yay for Ansa for starting the name thing/board history.

merrieee -- you just added one more reason why I love you so very much, and ITA on seeing Clay more than once entirely because he changes the show/banter every darn night. But have you tried to explain that to a not.just.us person? They look at your REAL funny....until they get to a show. THEN I think they get it.... Clayzor, you know I love you very much. It just seems that this is one area where I know we disagree, and I think we respect each other for that. If he gets that TV show though -- maybe we'll have the best of both worlds -- goofy Clay on TV, serious Clay in concert, or on a record. The only other artist I've seen more than once in the same tour was Huey Lewis and the News, way back in the 80's. Thinking back on that....they didn't change the show all that much. With Clay, though -- you never know what you're going to get! jamar, loved hearing about all your variety in musical tastes. I'm not much into current country, except for two artists -- Alison Krause (whom I saw a few weeks ago in concert) and Brad Paisley (fantastic guitar player, funny song writer, and fills out a pair of blue jeans quite well). My husband would appreciate the fact that you like George Jones too! But I like to think that I have eclectic music taste too. Someday when I get that iPod (hopefully for my birthday) I'm sure I'll find out! I remember a few years ago on the CH when KAndre posted that she LOVED "The Night Chicago Died." Right then, I became a minion. Two of my most cherished "albums" are box sets of 70's radio classics and 80's radio classics. (Someday, I'm going to get the one from the 90's). I tend to go from cheesy to rap in a heartbeat. *g* BTW, for those interested in statistics -- we registered 7 new members between August 1 and August 18. From August 19 to today -- 58 new members. Bookwhore, you think you're getting used to it being a "smaller" board? Try being an admin! Welcome all! If anyone needs a tutorial on how to do the "quotes" thing or how to cut down a post to quoting only a section of it, PM me. I'll talk you through it!

Hee, clayzor. I understand that, and agree with it to a point. But you know me....I love me my goofy Clay. I love it when he goes totally "off script," because then I think we get some classic comedy. I can see where it would be frustrating (for example, I don't envy YSRN in rating TWYMMF....), but I'm one that thinks entertainer Clay is "off the hook" and sells just as many records via comedy. And to prove MY personal point -- I think I've maybe downloaded 5 MOAMs from this tour. But I've downloaded anything with the words "Banter" in it, and every single TV medley and classics medley. I agree that he sings the shiznit out of MOAM -- but I love to laugh, and those medleys did it for me every.single.time. Yes, I'm weird. I'm totally with CG on the "green eyed soul" thing. IYDKMBN is fantastic to me, and the Motown medley was my favorite section of the JBT as well (*waves at keepingfaith, MY twin, almost*). He knows how to wail with that stuff, and I WANT MORE! Sorry for the yelling.

Bolding mine. See that's the thing -- I think the man has many different types of music in him. Upbeat. Uptempo. Sad. Soulful. I think he can do those, and more. But I do think they need to fit into what HE sees for himself. And I also totally agree with jamar here: Not at all. His voice is the reason many of us are here in the first place, and I think it would be a shame for him to sing something like SexyBack just to get him on the radio, or make his fans dance in the aisles all the time, or make his fans say "he's cool now." IMO it would be a waste of the vox. And yet, I want some songs that I can dance to as well. He'll find that mix, somehow, someway. And, I hate to break it to y'all, but it might take a few albums before he finds that mix. These things take time, honey [tm Clay]. Well, now THAT I agree with! I used to worry about his voice, but I think this tour showed me that it got stronger and stronger as it went along. I was at Tulsa, and I thought he sounded strained by the end of the night. And yet, I think his vocals in Orlando, the last stop of the tour, were fantastic. Also -- I simply don't worry about his glory-noting after seeing the last Christmas tour. AIW, anyone? Glory note heaven...and he did it strongly almost every night. And I see I disagree with Ansa over this. *sigh* I do agree that he tends to use them to showboat from time to time, but for the most part, I think he knows when and how to do them. And I LIKED the RHW note. Good God. The 2006 AMA awards look is one of my most favorite EVAH!! I know people swooned over the UNICEF lighting hair. Me? I'll take that AMA look anyday. And when he took off the jacket....yum-mo. That's just wrong. Thank you all for a fantastic day of reading, learning, and growing. And drooling over Clay. rcknrllmom, I loved your montage. And YSRN, thanks for that Angela clip. I'll have to find that clack soon. spot's TWYMMF, right?

muski, you did meet toni7babe in Houston -- it was when we were in the bar trying to get food. Maybe the margaritas fogged your brain? :F_05BL17blowkiss:

liney, DCAT stands for "Doing Clay Aiken Tour." This was the name of the tour created by FCA after Clay made a comment on Quiana's MySpace page. She had on her calendar listing there simply his name on certain days for the tour, and he made the comment "geez, sounds like you're doing me." Hence, we decided to Do Clay Aiken. We even created T-shirts! We had pins too, but I think they are sold out. And I think that's why I like the discussions around here -- I get the feeling that at least most here try to put themselves in someone else's shoes on almost every issue. Or, if we can't understand it, we at least say "agree to disagree" and move on. clayglo, I hope that you at some time feel comfortable enough to give your viewpoints here. Just remember that we might agree with you wholeheartedly...or only agree with you partially....or may not agree with you at all. And I try to NOT take any disagreements personally around here. That's another key, IMO.

Welcome ialreadyam! Yes, marathon reading sessions are a bear, especially when you're new or have been away for a few days (or in the case of this past week, even a few hours). But I'm glad you made it through. Hope you enjoy yourself. Ansa, that's Clay's backup singer from the early MOAM TV promotion. Wasn't her name Sholanda? The clip is from the VH1 TV special that went behind the scenes with Clay. And now I've just taken the words out of a different post for ialreadyam. Sorry, I get chatty sometimes.

I gotta admit, it made my innards tingle! It makes more than my innards tingle....heh. couchie, you do know how to make that picture into an avatar size on Photobucket, right? Look for the place where you upload your pictures to an album -- but before loading the picture, click on "options" next to "max picture size." Select avatar size and then save your selection. THEN upload your picture. (Remember to change your setting back to a more normal size after saving as an avatar size though....) As for the topic at hand....lots of good responses, and I think I have been nodding in agreement to almost everyone here. If I'm being truly honest, I find this kind of conversation a bit discomforting....and I think it's because if I apply things to my own life, I sometimes can see myself as well. This is a conversation that to me causes a bunch of "inward looking," and that can be very uncomfortable sometimes. I guess I feel that while I don't like the way it happened (booing is simply rude in this instance), Ethel did look inward. I'm not sure if others will. As far as Clay's role in all this -- I remember KAndre saying that this was a pointed comment. I agree -- and also realize that sometimes a pointed comment needs to be made in order to highlight behaviors. I agree with whomever said that they thought Clay was trying to make light of the situation, but it may have gotten lost because of the pointedness of the comment. But you know what? The comment has also made me THINK. A lot. It seems like it has for others too. So, in a round about way, IMO.... ETA: this is for bottlecap: YeeHaw!

Oh dear....looks like Kellie Pickler is going to be competing with Clay next week. Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? I don't know....will the South rise again? muski, I know how you'll answer that. Smut, smut, smut...don't lie. Ansa didn't you just change your avatar about 2 hours ago? And now you've changed again?!?!?

Welcome liney! Hope you have a great time!

With early registrants (2005 and 2006), we didn't require those fields being filled, so there are quite a few that don't have that filled in. Please note, however, that I do have mine filled in. FCA is my home board! And there are others too that do have that information there. Don't worry about it. If I remember correctly, you can upload your avatar directly from your computer, although I tend to use Photobucket myself, esepcially since Photobucket will shrink a picture to avatar size if you ask it to real nicely. Don't worry about asking questions! That's what us librarians are for! Hee! Topic: would Clay make a good librarian? Discuss.

Welcome keldanker! Wow CG, you hit the motherload! What a great set of pictures.... Hope Scarlett likes this one.... I love the lighting and shadow on this one.... He's such a cutie... God, is he a beautiful man! Yay! luckiest1 is back!

So....has it happened yet? Has heaven opened and deemed that luckiest1 is back? Bookwhore, I hear ya. I suppose I shouldn't recommend to my library patrons that they should read "Southern Heat" by the esteemed author muskifest, eh?

Just to let you know....I've updated the gifs... Goodbye :TourExcite: and :Tour3: in the list of clickables next to the posting area.... ...but hello to :xmas07a: !!! :F_05BL17blowkiss: cindilu2? So, what time is the wake? Is there a dress code? Should I be in all black? Or how about my Clay Aiken "Invisible" t-shirt -- would that be suitable? And most importantly -- will Clay be making an appearance? I think Clay is a little upset about all this.... ...and maybe sad too.... muski, how DARE you blame us!!! We've studied from you -- you are Obi-Wan, I am Luke. You are the master of smut. And I like your line of questioning. Must study further.